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Agree, different from the original, the alum clamp is the biggest change.
It's just the ad drawing, needs to change.
Dig down some and it's not looking too bad. All the fasteners are the same, which tells me the mount is the same as the original.
The clamp R picture triangle shape is the only real change.
Personally, I would recommend this shifter enhancement. Easy install at the right price, does the JOB as well as any@ 2x the price. It maintains the throw & the reverse function, which I prefer.
The other item installs without dissembling any of the interior.
I'm not a price shopper, function is my first important priority.
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dead_inside
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Noticed this in the design description for the new Blowfish bracket. Just FYI as most in this thread are putting a lot of weight on NVH. Seems there are a few changes with the new version. The old blue bracket had grommets to reduce NVH and this new one appears to be solid.
" This new version is a no frills design. No fancy logo. No trick billet aluminum clamps (sheet metal). No pretty Ford blue (black only). No NVH isolation...because RACECAR! Superior shifter feel, YES! Precise shifter gate locations, YES! No more missed shifts, YES! NHRA legal driveshaft safety loop, HELL YES! Still clears 4" driveshafts, YES! Still 100% made in America, ABSOFUKINLUTELY YES!"
" This new version is a no frills design. No fancy logo. No trick billet aluminum clamps (sheet metal). No pretty Ford blue (black only). No NVH isolation...because RACECAR! Superior shifter feel, YES! Precise shifter gate locations, YES! No more missed shifts, YES! NHRA legal driveshaft safety loop, HELL YES! Still clears 4" driveshafts, YES! Still 100% made in America, ABSOFUKINLUTELY YES!"
Nightmonkey
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@dead_inside
I have the new black part from Blowfish and my concerning vibrations are not in the shifter.
Yes, you have a little more vibration in the shifter, but not to the point that it's annoying.
In my case, it is a "noise annoyance" and not a tangible vibration in the shifter.
I therefore also do not assume that the problem is due to the missing rubber bearing of the clamp at the top.
What you don't see in the @Rapid Red picture is that this reinforcement is missing on the new black part.
These two struts have a very big influence on how the part can vibrate.
The deletion was necessary because they collide with the 2018+ NVH damper.
I want to add these two struts to the black part if removing the NVH damper doesn't change anything.
Sheet thickness of the new black bracket measured with coating is 1/4" (~ 6.5 mm).
Blowfish (and FTBR on the MT82) only make sense if you keep the stock shifter.
I have the new black part from Blowfish and my concerning vibrations are not in the shifter.
Yes, you have a little more vibration in the shifter, but not to the point that it's annoying.
In my case, it is a "noise annoyance" and not a tangible vibration in the shifter.
I therefore also do not assume that the problem is due to the missing rubber bearing of the clamp at the top.
What you don't see in the @Rapid Red picture is that this reinforcement is missing on the new black part.
These two struts have a very big influence on how the part can vibrate.
The deletion was necessary because they collide with the 2018+ NVH damper.
I want to add these two struts to the black part if removing the NVH damper doesn't change anything.
Sheet thickness of the new black bracket measured with coating is 1/4" (~ 6.5 mm).
MGW can already be attached exclusively to the gearbox.
Blowfish (and FTBR on the MT82) only make sense if you keep the stock shifter.
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@dead_inside
I have the new black part from Blowfish and my converning vibrations are not in the shifter.
Yes, you have some more vibration in the shifter, but not to the point that it's annoying.
In my case, it is a "noise annoyance" and not a tactile vibration.
I therefore also do not assume that the problem is due to the missing rubber bearing of the clamp at the top.
What you don't see in the @Rapid Red picture is that this reinforcement is missing on the new black part.
These two struts have a very big influence on how the part can vibrate.
The deletion was necessary because they collide with the 2018+ NVH damper.
I want to add these two struts to the black part if removing the NVH damper doesn't change anything.
Sheet thickness of the new black bracket measured with coating is 1/4" (~ 6.5 mm).
MGW can already be attached exclusively to the gearbox.
Blowfish (and FTBR on the MT82) only make sense if you keep the stock shifter.
What are you talking about "collide with the 2018+ NVH damper"
Mine is on a 2020, no interference?
What's this
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Nightmonkey
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@Rapid Red
Then Blowfish customized the part already before it turned black.
I was previously aware of blue only with the support.
This of course increases my fear that there is no way around the realization that my MT82 may be one of the 10% lemons.
Most of the stress associated with vibration occurs there:
Then Blowfish customized the part already before it turned black.
I was previously aware of blue only with the support.
This of course increases my fear that there is no way around the realization that my MT82 may be one of the 10% lemons.
This does not support towards the flange.What's this
Most of the stress associated with vibration occurs there:
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Where can this be bought?Agree, different from the original, the alum clamp is the biggest change.
It's just the ad drawing, needs to change.
Dig down some and it's not looking too bad. All the fasteners are the same, which tells me the mount is the same as the original.
The clamp R picture triangle shape is the only real change.
Personally, I would recommend this shifter enhancement. Easy install at the right price, does the JOB as well as any@ 2x the price. It maintains the throw & the reverse function, which I prefer.
The other item installs without dissembling any of the interior.
I'm not a price shopper, function is my first important priority.
Nightmonkey
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Black here: https://www.ebay.com/itm/225073163346
Blue is no longer made, Blowfish was gone, is now back just as an idea / mastermind with external manufacturing, blue was still with own in house manufacturing.
Sometimes you find the blue one in the classifieds.
Black here: https://www.ebay.com/itm/225073163346
Blue is no longer made, Blowfish was gone, is now back just as an idea / mastermind with external manufacturing, blue was still with own in house manufacturing.
Sometimes you find the blue one in the classifieds.
Bulutt
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Update on my post below from the other day. There definitely is more noise in the cabin and a slight vibration especially around 2000 rpm. Will give it another week but am really not digging it at all.. I bought it understanding that the was no increase in NVH
I think I will go back to stock. Bummer!!
Got the Steeda Triax Street short shift fitted. Had it for a couple of days now and am getting more comfortable with it. First off I don't really understand how just a 1 inch shorter gear lever can make such a big difference!! Having it 1 inch shorter really makes no difference to me as I don’t notice any difference where my hand is when driving compared to it being stock. In neutral the lever is rock solid. The stock lever was solid also but this feels even more so. Not a mm of movement in any direction. Gear changes are very short and positive with a mechanical and precise feel to the changes. I think the 2-3 change “nibble” when cold is gone. Overall it is exactly as Steeda intended but I still don’t know if I like it better than stock because even though the shifts are very positive it takes more effort to change gears. So whereas before I could easily glide into gear, now I have to push firmly to change so not as smooth feeling as before. But I fear if I change back I will miss the shorter throws. Now what I think is completely in my head, I feel the car pulls harder and sounds louder. Crazy I know but that is how it feels to me. Thanks for reading my ramblings.
I think I will go back to stock. Bummer!!Got the Steeda Triax Street short shift fitted. Had it for a couple of days now and am getting more comfortable with it. First off I don't really understand how just a 1 inch shorter gear lever can make such a big difference!! Having it 1 inch shorter really makes no difference to me as I don’t notice any difference where my hand is when driving compared to it being stock. In neutral the lever is rock solid. The stock lever was solid also but this feels even more so. Not a mm of movement in any direction. Gear changes are very short and positive with a mechanical and precise feel to the changes. I think the 2-3 change “nibble” when cold is gone. Overall it is exactly as Steeda intended but I still don’t know if I like it better than stock because even though the shifts are very positive it takes more effort to change gears. So whereas before I could easily glide into gear, now I have to push firmly to change so not as smooth feeling as before. But I fear if I change back I will miss the shorter throws. Now what I think is completely in my head, I feel the car pulls harder and sounds louder. Crazy I know but that is how it feels to me. Thanks for reading my ramblings.
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"First off I don't really understand how just a 1 inch shorter gear lever can make such a big difference!!"
Really, use a pencil placed on the table. Stand it up, and move the pencil back & forth by the eraser.
Note the travel.
Now do the same but from the middle of it....
understand now?
Really, use a pencil placed on the table. Stand it up, and move the pencil back & forth by the eraser.
Note the travel.
Now do the same but from the middle of it....
understand now?
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Bulutt
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I do understand the physics of a pendulum, but my point is, there is such a DRAMATIC difference in the shifter feel and length of travel for what is really not that much, maybe 15% , reduction in the shifter length. They say the shift reduction is 30% it but feels much more.
NGOT8R
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It does help some. I have it in several areas throughout my car (inside of doors, trunk lid, behind rear wheel well covers and around shifter). If you want to see maximum benefit from sound deadener, I would suggest doing it all over (floors, doors, wheel wells, trunk, trans tunnel, etc.).
Keep in mind, I am way past a shifter in my car, I have hardcore parts and/or black diff bushings, trans bracket, motor mounts, RLCA spherical bearings and several other components, but believe it or not, the NVH is still very low in my car. Even if it weren’t, the performance aspect of certain parts would be worth enduring a bit of NVH to me. Having said that, I can appreciate where you’re coming from too, in wanting to have as quiet a car as possible.
One big noisy component on the MT82-D4 is the counterweight on the right side of the tranny. It rattles a whole lot, in fact, it definitely contributes to NVH inside of the car. If you can, put your car on a lift, crawl underneath and shake the counterweight with your hand.
Keep in mind, I am way past a shifter in my car, I have hardcore parts and/or black diff bushings, trans bracket, motor mounts, RLCA spherical bearings and several other components, but believe it or not, the NVH is still very low in my car. Even if it weren’t, the performance aspect of certain parts would be worth enduring a bit of NVH to me. Having said that, I can appreciate where you’re coming from too, in wanting to have as quiet a car as possible.
One big noisy component on the MT82-D4 is the counterweight on the right side of the tranny. It rattles a whole lot, in fact, it definitely contributes to NVH inside of the car. If you can, put your car on a lift, crawl underneath and shake the counterweight with your hand.
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Nightmonkey
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I was able to try around again today.
The violent vibrations at the first attempt had its cause in the too small distance between NVH damper and bracket.
Have today mounted without NVH damper, which were then the marble noises described by blowfish for 10% of the users.
With the NVH damper are again somewhat less, but I will not get rid of them completely.
So it should be official that my MT82 belongs to the 10% with marbles inside.
The violent vibrations at the first attempt had its cause in the too small distance between NVH damper and bracket.
Have today mounted without NVH damper, which were then the marble noises described by blowfish for 10% of the users.
With the NVH damper are again somewhat less, but I will not get rid of them completely.
So it should be official that my MT82 belongs to the 10% with marbles inside.
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