Replaced Voodoo Engine

[rick81721]

I am not saying those that have engines loosing oil do not have a problem nor am I saying it is acceptable. What I will say is this thread is all over the place. It is titled 'Blown engine" yet only less than a hand full have actually suffered a hole in the block or broken valve train. I my self had an engine failure with my first 350 and it, i suspect was a bearing failure, yet no hole in the block or busted valve train. Additionally, categorizing an engine as failed due to oil consumption and subsequently replaced is far fetched, especially not having any data to say what was the cause. I am aware of one car suffering oil consumption more than the allowed Ford criteria and it was determined the car had low compression in multiple cylinders. That at least is an engine worthy of being called a failure. How many of the engines in this thread where replaced for oil consumption? How many of those actually had a diagnosis? This thread is borderline ridiculous. I am going to try and organize the data compiled in this thread and try and make sense of it. Albeit, I don't know if I will ever have enough time to go down the rabbit hole.

I agree - it should be retitled "replaced engine thread" and there should be a tally of actual "blown engines" i.e. catastrophic failure vs high oil consumption.

 

[Offboost]

There should also be a category for owner never checks oil for months then hears engine noise then finds its 3 or more quarts low tops it up then a week later engine fails.

 

[AdamIsAdam]

There should also be a category for owner never checks oil for months then hears engine noise then finds its 3 or more quarts low tops it up then a week later engine fails.

EXACTLY MY POINT!

Which reminds me, I gotta go check my oil. It's been days since last check. Never mind that the car is in the garage in winter storage. I need to make sure it's not suddenly 5 qts low!

(Disclaimer: this is not to take away from responsible owners with real issues. It's just an attempt to separate them from those who think it's a Honda and it'll be fine going 20k miles on the same oil without so much as checking it.)

 

[Zitrosounds]

There should also be a category for owner never checks oil for months then hears engine noise then finds its 3 or more quarts low tops it up then a week later engine fails.

That's just the thing. How many are willing to admit they are at fault for not reading the manual and following its instructions? I admit that this is the first car I have personally owned that required oil servicing so frequent. I will also admit that both my GT350'a are the only cars I have owned that have engines that turn at 8250 RPM. I use every little bit of the RPM range (once up to temp) when street driving and most definitely at the track. Does my current R require more oil servicing than most cars? YES. It is what I consider acceptable within my limits and also within Ford's criteria. And some times more especially on track.
And therein lies the problem with this thread. Honesty is 100% on the internet. I believe this thread is too skewed to even have reliable data. So I go off of personal experience and from others that I actually know who own GT350's, albeit only one other R in my 100 mile radius ; ) I appreciate those that have shared factual data. Many of those happened early on in the owners community on this forum. I am personally one of them. But know it is a runaway train and the data in this thread is simply unreliable. Why doesn't the OP add a poll indicating why the engine was replaced? Again, it is just conjecture but at least another data point.

How about it S550VIN54? Lets get this thread back on track with a title change and a poll.

 

[DCShelby]

I am not saying those that have engines loosing oil do not have a problem nor am I saying it is acceptable. What I will say is this thread is all over the place. It is titled 'Blown engine" yet only less than a hand full have actually suffered a hole in the block or broken valve train. I my self had an engine failure with my first 350 and it, i suspect was a bearing failure, yet no hole in the block or busted valve train. Additionally, categorizing an engine as failed due to oil consumption and subsequently replaced is far fetched, especially not having any data to say what was the cause. I am aware of one car suffering oil consumption more than the allowed Ford criteria and it was determined the car had low compression in multiple cylinders. That at least is an engine worthy of being called a failure. How many of the engines in this thread where replaced for oil consumption? How many of those actually had a diagnosis? This thread is borderline ridiculous. I am going to try and organize the data compiled in this thread and try and make sense of it. Albeit, I don't know if I will ever have enough time to go down the rabbit hole.

Do it, but tie a rope around your waist or carry a transponder with you so we can find you, and pull you back from the deep abyss.....

 

[Alain]

How long is the standard warranty Ford is issuing with these cars?

 

[jvandy50]

How long is the standard warranty Ford is issuing with these cars?

5yr/60k powertrain

 

[Zitrosounds]

How long is the standard warranty Ford is issuing with these cars?

60k miles 5 year warranty for powertrain

 

[Alain]

Thank you for the info fellers.

I wonder what kind of impact there’s going to be on resale once the warranties start expiring next year.

I wouldn’t buy a used one out of warranty because of these issues.

I’m hoping next year Ford gets its act together with the oil issue. At least tell people what the problem is. This way I can feel good about spending 70K on one of these

 

[pjk]

Many used GT350 cars have an item listed in Carfax on 04/23/2017 for high-oil consumption. Was this just a bulletin notification about how much oil it could consume for cars that didn't get this in the manual (manufactured before notice was published) or is it something else?
Here's an example: https://www.carfax.com/VehicleHistory/p/Report.cfx?partner=CVN_0&vin=1FA6P8JZXH5521507

I don't think this is on all GT350 Carfax vehicles which is why I'm asking. Thanks!

04/03/2017 Ford Motor Company Manufacturer Customer Satisfaction Program issued
Program #17L01 HIGH OIL CONSUMPTION

Locate an authorized Ford or Lincoln Mercury dealer or call 866-436-7332 to obtain more information

 

[pjk]

Many used GT350 cars have an item listed in Carfax on 04/23/2017 for high-oil consumption. Was this just a bulletin notification about how much oil it could consume for cars that didn't get this in the manual (manufactured before notice was published) or is it something else?
Here's an example: https://www.carfax.com/VehicleHistory/p/Report.cfx?partner=CVN_0&vin=1FA6P8JZXH5521507

I don't think this is on all GT350 Carfax vehicles which is why I'm asking. Thanks!

04/03/2017 Ford Motor Company Manufacturer Customer Satisfaction Program issued
Program #17L01 HIGH OIL CONSUMPTION

Locate an authorized Ford or Lincoln Mercury dealer or call 866-436-7332 to obtain more information

I think I figured this out. It seems to be on all 2016/17 Carfax reports. Must be just the notice of what’s considered normal oil consumption. I couldn’t fine anything when searching 17L01 which seemed odd.

Thanks!

 

[DCShelby]

So 200 miles on the new motor and no leaks or problems. Only thing I found was that a clamp needs to be moved up on a nipple of the coolant reservoir. It’s there on the hose, but not on the nipple. So I’ll do that myself and not bitch about it. No other issues or problems so far. This motor seems to be smoother overall and pulls great. I do notice the oil pressure is at 40 on idle and stays at 90 under full or part throttle or cruising speeds. I don’t quite remember my first motor doing that. And yes this is with motor warmed up. Tomorrow I’ll do a longer drive.

 

[Alain]

So 200 miles on the new motor and no leaks or problems. Only thing I found was that a clamp needs to be moved up on a nipple of the coolant reservoir. It’s there on the hose, but not on the nipple. So I’ll do that myself and not bitch about it. No other issues or problems so far. This motor seems to be smoother overall and pulls great. I do notice the oil pressure is at 40 on idle and stays at 90 under full or part throttle or cruising speeds. I don’t quite remember my first motor doing that. And yes this is with motor warmed up. Tomorrow I’ll do a longer drive.

Great to hear the new motor seems smoother than the last. Good luck with this one man. I was talking to a guy on the Camaro forums who had 2 motors replaced on his 350 before he decided to get rid of it. Keep us posted.

 

[AdamIsAdam]

So 200 miles on the new motor and no leaks or problems. Only thing I found was that a clamp needs to be moved up on a nipple of the coolant reservoir. It’s there on the hose, but not on the nipple. So I’ll do that myself and not bitch about it. No other issues or problems so far. This motor seems to be smoother overall and pulls great. I do notice the oil pressure is at 40 on idle and stays at 90 under full or part throttle or cruising speeds. I don’t quite remember my first motor doing that. And yes this is with motor warmed up. Tomorrow I’ll do a longer drive.

Excellent. Glad you're able to drive it in the winter.

 

[Zitrosounds]

Awesome! New and improved title with a poll for replacement reason.