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Nothing wrong with powder coating, just not necessary to get a nice durable finish. Remove them, strip them and paint them. A quality automotive line will get you where you want to be. The color match will be better to.

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Did you not use high temp paint?
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I think its lawyers talking telling people not to powder coat Brembo calipers. Aren't the R Model calipers powder coated red? I powder coated some 18Z Brembo's on my Z and have tracked them for 3 years without a problem and with no fade. It was a bitch getting the factory powder coating off.

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I think its lawyers talking telling people not to powder coat Brembo calipers. Aren't the R Model calipers powder coated red? I powder coated some 18Z Brembo's on my Z and have tracked them for 3 years without a problem and with no fade. It was a bitch getting the factory powder coating off.

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For looks and longevity of looks there's no substitute for powder coating period. I get it that a lot of people either don't want to go trough the trouble or aren't knowledgeable enough mechanically but I've seen a lot of painted calipers and all of them looked like they'd been painted. My calipers.
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Powder coat is not the end all for durability or appearance. I’ve seen just as many subpar applications with powder as I‘ve seen with paint. That said there is a huge difference in doing it off the car as opposed to trying to leave everything assembled and work around it. It comes down to what level of finish someone wants. I’ll leave alone how many parts I’ve seen rendered useless because someone wasn’t paying attention to the cycle time in the oven. There are colors, like candys and tri stages, that powder won’t duplicate.

For looks and longevity of looks there's no substitute for powder coating period. I get it that a lot of people either don't want to go trough the trouble or aren't knowledgeable enough mechanically but I've seen a lot of painted calipers and all of them looked like they'd been painted. My calipers.
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Hello; I started keeping aquariums & tropical fish around 1959. Kept them with only some short breaks ever since. Even picked up a Biology degree along the way. Back in 2011 I got a decent internet connection and joined a tropical fish forum. My point is the site was populated with some dominate personalities. Tried to tell me I must do things their way even when I knew from over 50 years' experience I did not have to.
As so often is the case there is often more than one way to skin a cat. I often post that we each get to run our tanks however we wish. Such is become the chagrin of some. I also made some long-lasting forum enemies as well as friends.

There apparently is not going to be a definitive answer to if powder coating is a safety issue. At least not yet. I can get why a company does not want calipers powder coated by DIY folks. Might only be a liability thing. My guess is that the caliper needs be disassembled ought to void any liability claims. But I do not know.

Kinda boils down to how much the look matters first. Then how much money and/or work you want to put into it. I have rebuilt calipers. Not the worst job to do, but not for a novice.
Kinda talked myself into a corner on a 1972 Porsche 911 targa. Owner had parked it for a few years and had me get it running. In the process i discovered one chamber of the brake fluid reservoir was empty. Only the front brakes worked.
The owner was willing to leave it that way until I refused to do more work if the brakes were not fixed. We looked up the cost of new parts and he balked. I made the mistake of saying I could rebuild the master cylinder and calipers, but I did not have the proper hones. He shows up with the hones, seals and other parts I had mentioned. So, I did the job. Had to make some plates so I could blow out the pistons with air. Job held up for decades.

So, barring some more definitive and compelling safety reason, it seems powder coated calipers can be made to work going by testimonies. I try not to dismiss nor naysay someone who actually did something and got away with it.

I do like the look.
 

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Hello; My guess is since powder coating a caliper appears to require complete disassembly of the caliper, that then Brembo will no longer be liable. disassembly ought to void any warranty or safety liability. (just a guess)

I also figure Brembo and other brake parts makers have evidence to back up any claims they make whatever those turn out to be.

In the end a painted or powder coated caliper is a cosmetic sort of thing. Not a performance thing. I get the appeal as i have seen nice looking calipers behind nice wheels. We will pretty much have to hope that colored calipers from a factory have taken heat retention into account.
Back in the old days I drove drum brake cars way too fast. To the point of serious brake fade. Coming from the top of Pine Mountain out of Bledsoe down into Harlan KY I would be out of brakes by the bottom of the hill. Not a comfortable feeling. So, for me ant thing which has the potential to affect performance id something to avoid.

I hope someone finds a more definitive answer.
If your asking why they say not to paint or powder the calipers that's a pretty easy and simple answer. I work with metal so maybe it's simple for me but not others but if you do some research you can find why brembos says what they say. They use a very thin annozided hard coat to prevent corrison and keep a nice look. Powder cost and paint is SIGNIFICANTLY thicker than what they use and it's also significantly less breathable and dispersing. By painting or powdercoating your calipers you are DECREASING how long it takes brake fluid to boil/calipers to fail and burn up. Paint and powder will trap heat and block airflow from effectively cooling the caliper and will cause the brakes, fluid even the piston seals to melt, burn and destroy themselves much much quicker than they should which can cause a accident or worse. Ford already has extreme issues with their rear brake calipers (which comes factory powdercoated) and they melt the dust boot seals and result in locked up calipers in anywhere from 15k to 65k. Mine had melted boots and it took 42k miles before it locked up and destroyed the calipers, brake cables, pistons, and the rotors. The only somewhat safe paint for calipers is g2 it allows the most airflow through the particles. And is more durable than powdercoat. But it's best to leave the brakes just the way they are.
 

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Powder cost and paint is SIGNIFICANTLY thicker than what they use and it's also significantly less breathable and dispersing. By painting or powdercoating your calipers you are DECREASING how long it takes brake fluid to boil/calipers to fail and burn up
Hello; Boiling brake fluid would be one of the concerns high on a list of potential reasons. Such is a reason I flush my brake fluid on any vehicle I own. Usually ever two to three years. I would do so more often on a tracked car.

I do not question the concept of the powder coating being more insulating and so ought to prevent heat dispersion to some degree. I admit I have not yet tried to look up Brembo's reasons against powder coating. Mostly because I do not plan to alter calipers for the look. I will leave them as the factory made them. That said the look is good. Also, if a company tells me to not mess with their brake product, I will listen.

But your post is the other side of this topic. Some past powder coating and also running on a track for years without a problem. I do not yet have enough experience to know from such.
 

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Power coat and automotive paint will not deal with the high heat produced if you really drive/track the car and USE the brakes. Both will discolor and retain heat over an uncoated unit.
It is neet looking on a cars and coffee cruiser that never use the perfomance of the braking system if your into that. Me I'd spend the 800 bucks plus cost of new seals and such on brake ducts to cool them over making them look fancy.
 

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You’re not wrong on if you want the best use, leave them uncoated. There’s a reason why rwce teams don’t coat them. G2 has a significantly higher mil thickness to paint and even powder. Breathability is debateable. As for Ford or any manufacturer having issues with melted boots and such. The reality is with any vehicle if someone is pushing it that hard on a regular basis wether it’s on the street(not smart) or the track the service interval becomes greatly reduced. It’s kind of like guys complaining about there 350, or any car really, and constant track use and bxtching about motors and other parts needing to be checked and replaced more often. It is what it is. The heavy equipment we use every day gets maintained a few times a day at a minimum depending on how it’s being used. I’ve never had a mustang going back to foxbodys(talk about fred flintstone brakes) that the brakes weren’t freshened or changed at 10k on the high end. With as nice as these cars are its hard to not go down the rabbit hole of cosmetic upgrades.

If your asking why they say not to paint or powder the calipers that's a pretty easy and simple answer. I work with metal so maybe it's simple for me but not others but if you do some research you can find why brembos says what they say. They use a very thin annozided hard coat to prevent corrison and keep a nice look. Powder cost and paint is SIGNIFICANTLY thicker than what they use and it's also significantly less breathable and dispersing. By painting or powdercoating your calipers you are DECREASING how long it takes brake fluid to boil/calipers to fail and burn up. Paint and powder will trap heat and block airflow from effectively cooling the caliper and will cause the brakes, fluid even the piston seals to melt, burn and destroy themselves much much quicker than they should which can cause a accident or worse. Ford already has extreme issues with their rear brake calipers (which comes factory powdercoated) and they melt the dust boot seals and result in locked up calipers in anywhere from 15k to 65k. Mine had melted boots and it took 42k miles before it locked up and destroyed the calipers, brake cables, pistons, and the rotors. The only somewhat safe paint for calipers is g2 it allows the most airflow through the particles. And is more durable than powdercoat. But it's best to leave the brakes just the way they are.
 

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You’re not wrong on if you want the best use, leave them uncoated. There’s a reason why rwce teams don’t coat them. G2 has a significantly higher mil thickness to paint and even powder. Breathability is debateable. As for Ford or any manufacturer having issues with melted boots and such. The reality is with any vehicle if someone is pushing it that hard on a regular basis wether it’s on the street(not smart) or the track the service interval becomes greatly reduced. It’s kind of like guys complaining about there 350, or any car really, and constant track use and bxtching about motors and other parts needing to be checked and replaced more often. It is what it is. The heavy equipment we use every day gets maintained a few times a day at a minimum depending on how it’s being used. I’ve never had a mustang going back to foxbodys(talk about fred flintstone brakes) that the brakes weren’t freshened or changed at 10k on the high end. With as nice as these cars are its hard to not go down the rabbit hole of cosmetic upgrades.
Ehh powder is also debatable. Depends on the shop. I've seen powder anywhere from 0.010 thick to 1/4 in thick. But g2 is undebatably more breathable. Our job does custom vehicle parts and test products for new parts and we come in contact with brembo for some of it from making clips to more. I've asked the Brembo engineer himself what he recommends for my 2017 and I got an answer. Do with that as you will. I can't share his exact response due his him asking but you can probably guess which company/product he recommended based off what I said before. It's either nothing or that product if you have to use any product. But officially you should never ever coat them
 

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That’s interesting. Evidently they’re not on the same page. From Brembo’s site. Same exact process I used. Epoxy primer, urthane base, acrylic clear.


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Ehh powder is also debatable. Depends on the shop. I've seen powder anywhere from 0.010 thick to 1/4 in thick. But g2 is undebatably more breathable. Our job does custom vehicle parts and test products for new parts and we come in contact with brembo for some of it from making clips to more. I've asked the Brembo engineer himself what he recommends for my 2017 and I got an answer. Do with that as you will. I can't share his exact response due his him asking but you can probably guess which company/product he recommended based off what I said before. It's either nothing or that product if you have to use any product. But officially you should never ever coat them
 

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That’s interesting. Evidently they’re not on the same page. From Brembo’s site. Same exact process I used. Epoxy primer, urthane base, acrylic clear.


https://www.brembo.com/en/news-archive/5-reasons-not-to-use-repainted-brake-calipers-brembo
This literally agrees with everything I said LMAO. Also primer base and clear isn't recommended again due to heat trapping. Brembo themselves say it. I'm not going to argue with you, I've talked to the engineers and I'll stick with what they say because they ya know, designed the actual part. The company selling it from my experience usually doesn't know much about how it works or how things affect it. Most companies I run into the engineers are the only ones who actually understand the part. The other people are just a bolt it in and it does what it does. If Brembo says not to paint them then I'm not going to paint them NOR recommend people paint them, you shouldn't be recommending it either because it's a huge safety issue. But if it has to be painted then g2 is the way to go.
 

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