IrishStallion
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Mike, I am not disputing your tests, but regardless, I disagree that pulling plug is same as pushing button for 5 seconds. My data says differently.And again, there are a dozen or more other reasons torque could be cut by torque management that aren’t affected by the TC button or fender plug.
Im not disputing that. My point was that if you aren’t spinning then it makes no difference if you disable TC, disable AT, or unplug the fender plug.Mike, I am not disputing your tests, but regardless, I disagree that pulling plug is same as pushing button for 5 seconds. My data says differently.
On cold tires I can spin up to top of third from a stop with barely a 25 foot rollout in cooler air with zero computer aided interference. Try that with the button just pushed and it will cut power. I would rather modulate the throttle/wheel spin with my foot than the systems taking over. Again this on properly inflated ps4 street tire.
Are you on stock tune and what rear tire are you running? When you use drag mode (if you have it) you get perfect hook on 1-2, 2-3, 3-4 shifts on street?Im not disputing that. My point was that if you aren’t spinning then it makes no difference if you disable TC, disable AT, or unplug the fender plug.
Whipple supercharged, custom tune (mine), stock PP1 rubber. Of course I can spin wildly in gears 1-5. If I want a clean log with no interference from TM, I do pulls locked into 6th gear. In that case, leaving all versions of torque management on makes no difference at all.Are you on stock tune and what rear tire are you running? When you use drag mode (if you have it) you get perfect hook on 1-2, 2-3, 3-4 shifts on street?
Most higher gear 1:1 load pulls don’t have traction issues unless your making high whp. I think we are comparing a lot of apples to oranges in this conversation at this point... Traction in 6-7th gear is a moot point on my setup? The “plug” unplugged in my setup shows less computer controlled interference on shifts especially lower gears. lol...Whipple supercharged, custom tune (mine), stock PP1 rubber. Of course I can spin wildly in gears 1-5. If I want a clean log with no interference from TM, I do pulls locked into 6th gear. In that case, leaving all versions of torque management on makes no difference at all.
Yeah, that's weird. I drive a '14 GT and it'll burn the tires off if I stab it at 4K in first. Grab second and it spins 'em pretty hard, with TC off. I have a Steeda canned tune, but you should still be up 40 HP or so on my car. I have 3:31 gears.I’ll say the same as last time, something must be wrong with my car. When it’s warm out with tc off I can nail it in 1st at 4K rpm and no wheel spin, grab 2nd no spin just go. I do have the stock PP1 ps4s tires so that helps, but apparently every other manual car is uncontrollable with tc off when mine won’t spin.
3.73 is a PP1 carWhat rear gear?
Ok, so the mt82 with 3.73’s has a taller first gear than the 10r80 with 3.55’s. My 10r80 car with your same tire would sometimes hook first and sometimes not, but with 20% more total gear. I could see the mt82 hooking first if the tires are in good shape and not cold. The stock base gt 235’s...not a chance.3.73 is a PP1 car
look at posts on here, the post mentioned earlier had several people mentioning how tail happy the manual cars are. A friend of mine test drove several manual cars and mention how tail happy it is compared to his hellcat. apparently he test drove my car too and experienced it. maybe i'm just not careless enough? I've been driving high hp cars for 15 years. lol. If i want it to spin, I can make it. but ordinarily it wont.Ok, so the mt82 with 3.73’s has a taller first gear than the 10r80 with 3.55’s. My 10r80 car with your same tire would sometimes hook first and sometimes not, but with 20% more total gear. I could see the mt82 hooking first if the tires are in good shape and not cold. The stock base gt 235’s...not a chance.
Part of me wishes I could see the logs of torque management when I ran 235's for lols. I think I got the car to hook one time on an on ramp and it actually felt fast. I never turned off traction control though, never felt like it was intelligent with such little tire.Ok, so the mt82 with 3.73’s has a taller first gear than the 10r80 with 3.55’s. My 10r80 car with your same tire would sometimes hook first and sometimes not, but with 20% more total gear. I could see the mt82 hooking first if the tires are in good shape and not cold. The stock base gt 235’s...not a chance.