Performance package for a daily driver?

[NDSP]

All performance, daily driving issues aside. It will retain its value better with the performance pack, than without.


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[Wildcat]

You did not mention if you are getting the 6 speed manual either way.

Yeah, this is the key unanswered question from the OP's post.

If you prefer an auto for daily driving and commuting (as many people do), then you don't have a choice at all. You have to get a non-performance pack GT.

And of course I think that really sucks and just seems like a way for Ford to get people to buy the decidedly 'meh' (and somewhat overpriced) anniversary GT, which does have the option of an auto and performance pack.

 

[derieuz]

Just pointing out some real world concerns so don't get a case of road rage on me.

Way too many people want something without thinking their desire thru long term.
The original poster has some legitimate concerns and I gave legitimate answers.

Hopefully you (on the other hand) show more maturity as the owner of a new Mustang than you are showing with your posts here.

I gave a response, i'm not sure how that is reflecting a sense of immaturity, but the way you worded your response sounded as if the only reason to get the performance package was for the "cool" factor and that only people with buttloads of money should have it. Also by stating that "simply" buying a set of winter tires is for buttloads of money only is ridiculous. Having winter tires for the winter and summer tires for the summer is much more safe for the driver instead of buying All-Seasons.

 

[Seabee1973]

You did not mention if you are getting the 6 speed manual either way.
The lack of PP with the automatic is a problem for me because I have a knee injury from my motocross days that will cause me problems for the rest of my life.

One thing to look real hard at is the stiffness of the PP car -vs- the normal GT.
If it is quite a bit stiffer, that might be a deal killer for you. No way to tell until you can test drive one of each flavor.

Another item that can potentially be a big cost item is the tires.
Summer compound tires do not like temperatures below 40 deg., which means us people who live in 2/3 of the country that see lower Winter temperatures will need to spend money to get Winter or All Weather tires. Additionally, if you replace the tires with the same brand and model, it will cost you $300+ if you buy thru TireRack and who knows how much if you go to the local tire store.
An issue that combines the lack of spare with the specialized 19" tires is if you actually destroy a tire, keep in mind that it could take several days (or longer) to obtain a replacement tire. If the car is your daily driver it could be a real problem.
Try calling your boss and saying "I can't come in to work for the next three days because one of the tires on my car blew out".
Same with the wheels. It could be a bit of a wait 5 years down the road if you need a replacement for a wheel after trashing one.
Beware people who will say "No big deal, just spend more money now and buy a set of all season tires on an extra set of wheels so you can switch them out seasonally." Those people may have dollar bills spewing out of their butt's but I don't happen to be similarly blessed.

Bigger radiator doesn't matter one way or the other unless you will be doing track time.
The rear end gearing is pretty incremental and I can't see where it would even be something that you would notice once you get used to a specific highway RPM. It isn't like the old days when 4:11 gears with no overdrive were the performance option.

I definitely do not have dollar bills coming out of my ass.... I do have preferences for tires and which ones I can trust... Bridgestone and generals are both good and have respectable high performance all seasons for anywhere between 160 to 250 some being better treadwear than others. Tire prices vary along with oil prices do they also change often. I chose a performance package for better handling as well as the other features presented with that package. I have rarely ever had to use a spare tire and the one on my truck is STILL unused since I bought the truck in 2006. sure you can buy the oem tires... That is your own choice but realistically pirellis are known to have a softer rubber compound and often do not last as long... same goes with goodyear, dunlop. You should pay attention to the tire ratings when you buy. 20 inch wheels you will find it harder to find cheaper tires and those tires are also commonly more expensive. Don't throw down a package because you are unable to get it, It's your own choice

 

[Nitro]

Depends how good the roads are where you live, I personally probably pushed the limits as I ordered the PP as a daily in Michigan, the roads are horrendous. I've always been a performance junkie, I appreciate the sportier/stiffer handling and suspension, so I went along with it. This will be driven all year around, I have money set aside for winter tires and wheels already as well.

I'm also from Michigan. I want the PP but I'm worried it will be hard to get winter wheels/tires over those massive 15" rotors with 6pot calipers. I'm waiting to see if anybody can fit an 18" wheel over those brakes. It will be tough.

 

[derieuz]

I'm also from Michigan. I want the PP but I'm worried it will be hard to get winter wheels/tires over those massive 15" rotors with 6pot calipers. I'm waiting to see if anybody can fit an 18" wheel over those brakes. It will be tough.

The smallest you can get is a 19 inch rim with proper offsets (via FordService), You can get wheels for as low as 150 a rim and about 275-300 a GOOD tire. I plan on not cheaping out because they'll last me longer and thats a 360 degree donut i don't have to worry about

 

[derieuz]

Here is the cheapest I could find that will most likely fit:

http://www.belletire.com/wheel-detail/slvml/139868/voxx-wheels/p30/silver-w--machined-lip

with:

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...dewall=Blackwall&partnum=44HR9XI3XL&tab=Sizes

or

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...R9LM32XL&vehicleSearch=false&fromCompare1=yes

 

[Seabee1973]

You did not mention if you are getting the 6 speed manual either way.
The lack of PP with the automatic is a problem for me because I have a knee injury from my motocross days that will cause me problems for the rest of my life.

One thing to look real hard at is the stiffness of the PP car -vs- the normal GT.
If it is quite a bit stiffer, that might be a deal killer for you. No way to tell until you can test drive one of each flavor.

Another item that can potentially be a big cost item is the tires.
Summer compound tires do not like temperatures below 40 deg., which means us people who live in 2/3 of the country that see lower Winter temperatures will need to spend money to get Winter or All Weather tires. Additionally, if you replace the tires with the same brand and model, it will cost you $300+ if you buy thru TireRack and who knows how much if you go to the local tire store.
An issue that combines the lack of spare with the specialized 19" tires is if you actually destroy a tire, keep in mind that it could take several days (or longer) to obtain a replacement tire. If the car is your daily driver it could be a real problem.
Try calling your boss and saying "I can't come in to work for the next three days because one of the tires on my car blew out".
Same with the wheels. It could be a bit of a wait 5 years down the road if you need a replacement for a wheel after trashing one.
Beware people who will say "No big deal, just spend more money now and buy a set of all season tires on an extra set of wheels so you can switch them out seasonally." Those people may have dollar bills spewing out of their butt's but I don't happen to be similarly blessed.

Bigger radiator doesn't matter one way or the other unless you will be doing track time.
The rear end gearing is pretty incremental and I can't see where it would even be something that you would notice once you get used to a specific highway RPM. It isn't like the old days when 4:11 gears with no overdrive were the performance option.

Also, may I add, just because it has a bigger radiator and an oil cooler does not necessarily mean it is going to be run on the track... I actually see it as an advantage for people who live in much hotter climates like texas can keep their engines at a better operating temperature. Much like trucks with towing packages with an oil cooler, transmission cooler. Having the performance package will also retain value better than one with the least amount of options... not getting it for a cool factor rather I am used to Euro cars... Audi specifically which have stiffer suspensions on most of their line up... S lines have adjustable suspension or magnetic ride... I would actually prefer that but for the value... I am paying the same as my audi from 2001... these days, the base TT is at 39k and a TTS @ 48k. New f150 will be upwards of 50k with the same package as my current truck but I already have one... so the conclusion is a Mustang.... never had one and will when it is built... trust me, it was well thought out even paying with my budget.

On a defensive note, I did not see the other guy as being immature about his comments especially with the most recent ones.

 

[SuperSnake]

You did not mention if you are getting the 6 speed manual either way .

Good feedback here. Thanks!

BTW - it will be a a manual. I updated my original post.

 

[JonBMcD]

Also, may I add, just because it has a bigger radiator and an oil cooler does not necessarily mean it is going to be run on the track... I actually see it as an advantage for people who live in much hotter climates like texas can keep their engines at a better operating temperature.

Sold

On a defensive note, I did not see the other guy as being immature about his comments especially with the most recent ones.

Agreed. I actually thought he sounded mature for a 19 year old. (Particularly the thinking ahead part)

 

[tbonez3858]

I have a funny feeling that the people that choose and are willing to spend the money on a PP won't keep the stock wheel/tire combo more than a year. There are loads of performance gains to be had in a better sized tire and a lighter weight forged rim. I haven't looked at the specific weights for the 2015 PP stock rims but I'm thinking you can probably drop 40 to 50 pounds and massively improve performance with a different tire choice.

 

[Nitro]

The smallest you can get is a 19 inch rim with proper offsets (via FordService), You can get wheels for as low as 150 a rim and about 275-300 a GOOD tire. I plan on not cheaping out because they'll last me longer and thats a 360 degree donut i don't have to worry about

Ford said the GT PP has the same brakes as the GT500. I've seen that some GT500 drivers were able to get 18" wheels around their brakes (although there was only 2 or 3 sets that actually fit).

 

[BlackDragon]

I made my own spare for my 12. I used a racestar front skinny. Somebody will make a skinny that fits over the 6pots, and I'll make my own spare again.

 

[Seabee1973]

I have a funny feeling that the people that choose and are willing to spend the money on a PP won't keep the stock wheel/tire combo more than a year. There are loads of performance gains to be had in a better sized tire and a lighter weight forged rim. I haven't looked at the specific weights for the 2015 PP stock rims but I'm thinking you can probably drop 40 to 50 pounds and massively improve performance with a different tire choice.

Actually, I will be but not the tires, when they get worn out I will be switching to a more preferred, longer lasting tire than the pirelli with either general or Bridgestone. As far as rims, not certain yet... I was considering getting a whole new set if for some reason I ever needed a spare... or changing the rim design with a set of tires as a backup or when the installed ones become worn... just a thought though... not too happy with some of the rim designs I have seen so far

 

[BlackDragon]

I have a funny feeling that the people that choose and are willing to spend the money on a PP won't keep the stock wheel/tire combo more than a year. There are loads of performance gains to be had in a better sized tire and a lighter weight forged rim. I haven't looked at the specific weights for the 2015 PP stock rims but I'm thinking you can probably drop 40 to 50 pounds and massively improve performance with a different tire choice.

First mod after exhaust and tint will be a set of ccw wheels. As wide as they can fit, lol

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