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Typically double clutching is for racing and very few use it. double clutching is also used in commercial trucks but again most people float the gears. as far as shifting between 1st and 2nd in traffic I usually just take off and second but I have 3.73 gears.
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Double clutch? Why would you double clutch a car transmission?
I believe the first clutch is for the gear engagement, the second clutch either with break or gas pedal is to match your speed to your rpm during turns, it helps you to slow down and accelerate in control during the turns. If you down shift and don't match your speed to your rpm with the correct gear then the car will perform engine break with an uncontrollable front dive which will alter your control during turns, similar goes if you want to accelerate through a corner. It has been used in WRC a lot.
 

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Double clutch? Why would you double clutch a car transmission?
You have to double clutch a manual transmission car, unless the transmission has synchros. Clutch in, put the car in neutral, clutch out, rev the engine to where the engine speed will be after the gear change to get the transmission moving at that speed, clutch in, shift into the new gear, clutch out.
 

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You have to double clutch a manual transmission car, unless the transmission has synchros.
Isn't that a bit like saying you need to illuminate your house with candles, unless your house is equipped with electricity? Haven't synchros been standard for a very long time on consumer vehicles?
 

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Isn't that a bit like saying you need to illuminate your house with candles, unless your house is equipped with electricity? Haven't synchros been standard for a very long time on consumer vehicles?
Except in European taxis and one car a friend of a friend had in high school, I've never in my life been in a vehicle with a manual transmission that had synchros. They're essentially non-existent in big rigs, and nobody I know except big rig drivers has a manual.
 

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You have to double clutch a manual transmission car, unless the transmission has synchros. Clutch in, put the car in neutral, clutch out, rev the engine to where the engine speed will be after the gear change to get the transmission moving at that speed, clutch in, shift into the new gear, clutch out.
You don't have to double clutch or put the gear in neutral to rev it higher, you can do all that with the first clutch engagement, especially in the straights! I recommend down shifting on certain speeds you choose and see where the rpm falls for each gear and adjust your throttle and rpm during the first clutch engagement! For upshifting you can power shift no problem! Double clutch on staright ways putting in neutral especially will cost you 2 seconds and the soccer mom driving a suv behind you will end up infront of you in no time! :D
 

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I believe the first clutch is for the gear engagement, the second clutch either with break or gas pedal is to match your speed to your rpm during turns, it helps you to slow down and accelerate in control during the turns. If you down shift and don't match your speed to your rpm with the correct gear then the car will perform engine break with an uncontrollable front dive which will alter your control during turns, similar goes if you want to accelerate through a corner. It has been used in WRC a lot.
I do this 99% of the time when slowing down to make turns and I always thought I just was driving my manual wrong because everyone always says "you always want to be in-gear," but it felt natural so I kept doing it.

Now I know I'm not crazy; thanks.
 

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You don't have to double clutch or put the gear in neutral to rev it higher, you can do all that with the first clutch engagement, especially in the straights! I recommend down shifting on certain speeds you choose and see where the rpm falls for each gear and adjust your throttle and rpm during the first clutch engagement! For upshifting you can power shift no problem! Double clutch on staright ways putting in neutral especially will cost you 2 seconds and the soccer mom driving a suv behind you will end up infront of you in no time! :D
You are talking about rpm matching the engine to the speed of the rear tires/drivetrain.

J2T is talking about synchronizing the speed of the next two gears in the transmission you are planning to engage. In order to spin the gears faster (or more slowly) using the engine the clutch needs to be released.

I agree there's no reason to do this in any car built in the last 30+ years, unless the transmission is worn out. All modern automobile manual transmissions are designed to automatically synchronize the speeds of the gears as you shift.
 

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I got the manual GT with PP, but I don't daily drive it. If I did I would have thought long and hard about getting the auto. The auto is a really good transmission, and if you aren't going to track your Mustang, or if you don't live where you can really enjoy using the stick on winding roads, then the manual can be a real chore. The GT is very well matched to the auto, it works well, its basically just as fast and shifts and holds gears very well too.
 

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Drove both today . And got stuck traffic on purpose and really just wasn't fun to me im sure i would get used to it. I did seat in recaros to not a fan if your carrying a gun on your hip all the time . Anyways drove a 3.55 auto and holy crap miles better then last years auto . The rev matching in sport mode is sick . While i love manuals and the shifter feels great even if you don't like autos drive one just to see.
 

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I drive a manual ecoboost from Naperville to Merchandise Mart every day...shit sucks but better than that Metra brah
 
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Now they just announced the ordering for 16s starting May... Delivery in aug/sep the debate to wait or not damn .... I want grabber blue if they bring it back in 16 I may wait .
 

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Double clutch? Why would you double clutch a car transmission?
There is a noticable difference in how easy the shifter goes into gear with a well executed double clutch on the downshift (matches the intermediate shaft speed). Totally unecessary with a modern manual transmission with syncros especially if you are already rev matching on the downshift, but you can still feel it ease into gear easier.

Fun to practice, just another rewarding opportunity one has with a stick
 

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Driven manuals all my life and sat in plenty of traffic jams. At the moment I have an A class Auto (first auto I have ever had) and it is so nice in traffic. I love the fact that I don't even have to pull the hand brake up!

Having said that, my Mustang will be manual.

When in stop start traffic I just try to relax. Gently let the clutch up with no throttle to inch forwards when needed, dip the clutch and let it roll in to position pull handbrake up gently and knock it in to neutral. I find the less laid back and gently you do everything the less annoying it all is.
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