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Since going FI and remote lund tune I've never really been satisfied with the quality of the map.
It works ok but being a bit of a perfectionist, not well enough I feel.

I have this occasional engine lurch/stumble when tipping in to light throttle, happens maybe 3-4 times in a week.

The idle is high for my liking and when I queried this the revision was awful, had to accept the higher idle and revert back to previous as things were getting heated in the emails. Not the best service I've received.

I feel it's over rich despite Lund saying it isn't. I have black exhaust and lots of black carbon spots on the rear bumper. It stinks of unburnt fuel from behind when given a wot blast and you can see the haze in the mirror.

On a track day, the haze is annoying and embarrassing.

Doesn't use oil or breath so it's not that, just heaps of fuel.

I've smoothed out the Maf signal by smoothing out the pipe transitions and increasing the taper on the reducer that sits before the blow through Maf and made an air straightener that sits before the Maf. Maf signal looks more stable than the stock Paxton setup and Lund calibrated the Maf after. Made no difference to drivability though unless looking at the log.

If I unplug the Maf the car runs like absolute shit so the tune is heavily reliant on the Maf signal and I think that a bit crap. If the Maf died, it runs so rough I wouldn't be able to drive it home.

I've heard good things about Wengerd, what does everyone think about trying someone else?
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Wengerd all day. Top notch service. And his tunes are on point.
 
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Wengerd tunes aren't reliant on the MAF?

Share the logs so we can see how rich it is
I'm about 6000 miles away from my laptop at the minute, but the logs don't look miles off, 0.9 lambda at light throttle, dropping to 0.7 ish wot but I guess that's this cot thing causing some of that?

Never said they weren't but if you know what that insinuates, you know. I'm just not happy about it, I'd like it closer than it is.

Ideally I'd like a slightly over 1 lambda at light throttle and cot not active, a lower idle without the stumbling, a bit more advanced on the table for the leaner/ lighter throttle parts of the map, not so much over fueling ect at wot. Just a bit more finesse.

I understand the tune I have will be conservative and rich but it cost a fair bit in comparison to what others charge. Im disappointed.

Don't get me wrong, it works, majority of people wouldn't notice.
 

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Get with Wengerd and don’t look back.
His tunes and customer service are top notch.
 

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How is it lund's problem that you need to comply with emissions on a pump gas boosted car with cats?
 

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How is it lund's problem that you need to comply with emissions on a pump gas boosted car with cats?
He's in the UK so it is a bit different situation then here.
 

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I'm about 6000 miles away from my laptop at the minute, but the logs don't look miles off, 0.9 lambda at light throttle, dropping to 0.7 ish wot but I guess that's this cot thing causing some of that?

Never said they weren't but if you know what that insinuates, you know. I'm just not happy about it, I'd like it closer than it is.

Ideally I'd like a slightly over 1 lambda at light throttle and cot not active, a lower idle without the stumbling, a bit more advanced on the table for the leaner/ lighter throttle parts of the map, not so much over fueling ect at wot. Just a bit more finesse.

I understand the tune I have will be conservative and rich but it cost a fair bit in comparison to what others charge. Im disappointed.

Don't get me wrong, it works, majority of people wouldn't notice.
Share logs. No mustang let a lone any car will run exactly at 1.0 lambda its going to vary. Any coyote will also run like crap with the maf unplugged it will go in limp mode. Some older cars will run fine with the maf unplugged but most modern cars cause the car to go in limp mode. Newer hondas are very sensitive to the maf signal.
 
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Share logs. No mustang let a lone any car will run exactly at 1.0 lambda its going to vary. Any coyote will also run like crap with the maf unplugged it will go in limp mode. Some older cars will run fine with the maf unplugged but most modern cars cause the car to go in limp mode. Newer hondas are very sensitive to the maf signal.
Il post logs in a few weeks once I'm home again, Cheers 👍
 

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Wengerd tunes aren't reliant on the MAF?

Share the logs so we can see how rich it is
I think he means the base map outside the maf changes runs like crap, on na the car can run roughly well, enough to get home
When maf unplugged, car should be able to be roughly good a/f to 3000 rpm in order to get home
 

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How is it lund's problem that you need to comply with emissions on a pump gas boosted car with cats?
Another lund backer i see
Lunds customer service has been shit
They have a high ego when it comes to their tunes, unless you are a high profile customer, they refuse to even double check what they load into your tunes

i had an ecoboost tune from them, it was 5% better than cobbs off the shelf, and they loaded me up with a pp car tune when i wasnt pp, then took me 3 emails to get them to fix that issue alone
 

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I'm about 6000 miles away from my laptop at the minute, but the logs don't look miles off, 0.9 lambda at light throttle, dropping to 0.7 ish wot but I guess that's this cot thing causing some of that?

Never said they weren't but if you know what that insinuates, you know. I'm just not happy about it, I'd like it closer than it is.

Ideally I'd like a slightly over 1 lambda at light throttle and cot not active, a lower idle without the stumbling, a bit more advanced on the table for the leaner/ lighter throttle parts of the map, not so much over fueling ect at wot. Just a bit more finesse.

I understand the tune I have will be conservative and rich but it cost a fair bit in comparison to what others charge. Im disappointed.

Don't get me wrong, it works, majority of people wouldn't notice.
Lund is known to be on the conservative side, its highly possible they are running too rich when it comes to whats safe vs where it should be
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