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Interesting, seems like a very imprecise way of tracking if the ecu has been flashed.
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That's basically what everyone here is talking about.
Sorry, thought it hadn't actually been put on website until today. I go there frequently looking for updates to the eta to the power packs and never noticed it until today and obviously missed it earlier in this thread!:headbonk:
 

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Is that a Proven Fact or just a theory. My understanding, it is not the flash counter that the use, but the Ignition Counter. This is from the Ford Job Aid:
I'm curious is it not possible to alter that number with a tune or is there a way to see your ignition counter ?
 

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I'm curious is it not possible to alter that number with a tune or is there a way to see your ignition counter ?
I doubt we can change that number without the source code. Ford engineers are not dumb lol they are not going give us full access to the ECU. Even if we find a way to change the flash count, I bet that triggers another bit that acts as a flag to be set that lets the engineers know something is fishy. While the ignition counter does not explicitly say the engine has been reflashed, if the engine has 8 months old with an ignition count of 50 flashes, it is a pretty good indication that the ECU has been tampered with. If Ford really wants to know if the ECU has been touched, they will find out
 

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I doubt we can change that number without the source code. Ford engineers are not dumb lol they are not going give us full access to the ECU. Even if we find a way to change the flash count, I bet that triggers another bit that acts as a flag to be set that lets the engineers know something is fishy. While the ignition counter does not explicitly say the engine has been reflashed, if the engine has 8 months old with an ignition count of 50 flashes, it is a pretty good indication that the ECU has been tampered with. If Ford really wants to know if the ECU has been touched, they will find out
I really don't think there is a flash count. What you are seeing there is the number of ignition cycles after a flash. They want to see a reasonable number of engine starts after it was flashed. My ECU was flashed after Ford did the PCV TSB.

I've never seen anything that shows how many flashes. I'm not saying it doesn't exist, I'm just saying I've never seen it and never heard it from a credible source. Sure, lots of people on the Internet say they can. In my opinion that starts from one person that doesn't understand or misunderstood what he was told and then spreads it as fact to a bunch of people just believe whatever they are told...
 

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Lmr.com had being shipped by tomorrow but that's now changed to Dec 1st, who knows.
 

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the GT's stage 2 and 3 power packs that were announced in July are still not available with stage 1 (tune only) not being released until late Aug. guessing the EBM stuff is still months away.
 

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I really don't think there is a flash count. What you are seeing there is the number of ignition cycles after a flash. They want to see a reasonable number of engine starts after it was flashed. My ECU was flashed after Ford did the PCV TSB.

I've never seen anything that shows how many flashes. I'm not saying it doesn't exist, I'm just saying I've never seen it and never heard it from a credible source. Sure, lots of people on the Internet say they can. In my opinion that starts from one person that doesn't understand or misunderstood what he was told and then spreads it as fact to a bunch of people just believe whatever they are told...
Former Ford powertrain engineer here, yes there is logging in the pcm for the calibrations loaded, with dates.
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