Juggernaut outed

[bankyf]

Lund racing nguage isnt HP tuners software....its lund racings. Thats why its called "lund racing Nguage"

So you believe that Lund's "proprietary software" is the only way to read their files? If so, you would be mistaken.

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[K4fxd]

Meh, I don't believe he is doing "coding". I think he is just using a different software package. Still a nice accomplishment, but not really coding.

I'm not the smartest guy in this room, but I have been delving into the .bin coding of the Ford ECU's. Still looks like Greek to me. Right or wrong I consider modifying the .bin files as coding.

Yes there is software designed to read and modify these files.

 

[PaddyPrix]

So, question from a software developer in a different field.

Are these "tunes" that everyone seems to be (understandably) quite possessive of actually software in a programming sense, where you delete the original Ford engine program, and totally write your own, with its own unique implementation of the fuel injection/spark advance/cam timing /emissions control algorithms, plus whatever extra behaviors you want to add, or are they just editing the original lookup tables to adjust for differences created by aftermarket exhaust/intake/headers/cams, et cetera, but leaving the executable code the same?

I can imagine this might matter in the sense that, if everyone is starting from the same original lookup tables, and those lookup tables are the only part of the software they can change, then most likely, everyone's results are going to be similar, regardless of whether they peeked at someone else's work or not.

<Nerd>
Tunes are no different to configuration files.

Microsoft (and actually Sybase and heck, Ashton-Tate) wrote the Database engine many years ago, along with the trace flags, and startup parameters that allow me to suggest values to tweak it just perfectly. I don't change the Microsoft SQL Server binary executables, but parameter overrides through the configuration file, parameters that they provide. Like a tuner would, I ask what you're trying to do, what parts you have, etc, because I understand the differences between an Intel 8490H, Xeon E5-4699v4, or a simple desktop CPU, and going further, the intricacies between chip architectures, like Intel's AVX, or if your storage is a Pure Storage Flash Array, totally different from a NetApp and so on. While Microsoft ships a pretty basic and default file that is good enough for 99% of their customer base, a bank running a few million transactions a second is a slightly different use case than a dog groomer with maybe 10 clients a day. I guess you can take my configuration file and send it to somebody else, but I guarantee that unless they have the same setup, things are going to be different, and while it might not blow something up, it will crash or work poorly if you choose values that are way outside/over your capability, for instance the 8490H is 60 cores, the Xeon E5-4699v4 is 22, most desktops are 4.

Differently, they don't really have config files, but the ECU is pretty simple in that it's just reading a binary, which is why the devices read (and save) your stock file and save it, and you flash, or overwrite the contents, and replacing your values over it, similar to what you'd to with your computer's CMOS. Should something not work, flashing or returning back to stock is just writing some set of values back, and cycling the car and starting on that "strategy".
</Nerd>

 

[SolarFlare]

So you believe that Lund's "proprietary software" is the only way to read their files? If so, you would be mistaken.

read? This gentleman who doesnt work for lund, pulled, read, edited and reflashed a lund racing file into a lund racing nguage. You cant do that without lund racing software.

 

[K4fxd]

You cant do that without lund racing software.

If you can read and edit the .bin files you don't need Lund software.

 

[bankyf]

read? This gentleman who doesnt work for lund, pulled, read, edited and reflashed a lund racing file into a lund racing nguage. You cant do that without lund racing software.

If you say so....

 

[SolarFlare]

If you can read and edit the .bin files you don't need Lund software.

I believe you've mentioned you tune your own car, is that correct? HPtuners?

 

[Evolvd]

Flores states it perfectly when he says “this is money out of MY pocket”. So there it is, it’s all about money to him. So while I don’t, nor will I ever, have a tune by them I can see the patterns of unprofessionalism he has in his YouTube ramblings and tirades. Which is ironic cause he’s calling out Matt about his professionalism. Pot, meet kettle

And to be upfront, I don’t know either Flores or Matt at all and I have zero skin to support or defend Juggernaut. But I will call out YouTube yolo douchebags when they act just like that

 

[K4fxd]

I believe you've mentioned you tune your own car, is that correct? HPtuners?

Yes, and Yes.

I have some software to read the bin files directly. That is still over my head at this time.

 

[SolarFlare]

Yes, and Yes.

I have some software to read the bin files directly. That is still over my head at this time.

so you work HP tuners. If I showed up and Said draw my encripted Lund racing ngauge file,make some revisions and reflash it, could you?

 

[AZlb5.0]

read? This gentleman who doesnt work for lund, pulled, read, edited and reflashed a lund racing file into a lund racing nguage. You cant do that without lund racing software.

The Lund gauge is portable hardware with software used to transfer tuning files. You can do the same with a laptop and HP tuners.

 

[K4fxd]

If I understood the bin file software better, yes.

The only way for me to read it with hp is if Lund left it unlocked.

 

[AZlb5.0]

If I understood the bin file software better, yes.

The only way for me to read it with hp is if Lund left it unlocked.

And it can be unlocked nothing is full proof.

 

[SolarFlare]

So regardless, you're doing something you shouldn't... props to him for self snitching.

 

[bankyf]

So regardless, you're doing something you shouldn't... props to him for self snitching.

Interesting mindset... I suppose HPTuners and every custom tuner are doing something they shouldn't with Ford's calibration.... and self snitching.

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