Is Performance Package worth it?

[99Zeus99]

In this case do you guys even recommend a convertible instead of a coupe if I’m just using the car for common everyday usage?

I’d be getting an automatic.

In CA, I would definitely get a convertible non PP. The suspension is too stiff for just a cruiser.

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[canyon ed]

In CA, I would definitely get a convertible non PP. The suspension is too stiff for just a cruiser.

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[bluebeastsrt]

Better brakes mean better stopping power. 19 inch rims with wider, stickier lower profile tires, nicer rims as well, stiffer suspension, bigger radiator, etc This all adds up to better performance. I drive spirited every time I get into my cars. Granted I live in an area where rolling hills and country roads (and no local police force) allow for a very spiritual driving experience. I have no idea where to OP lives, but if he is looking for a sports car I imigine he enjoys spirited driving, otherwise why even ask if the performance package is worth it.

If you are going to buy a sports car, drive it like a sports car and get the performance package so it handles like a proper sports car.

When I went to look and test drive Mustangs, they only had non PP on the lot. I test drove a.50th anniversary package and ordered the PP without ever test driving one. I would never purchase a sports car without a factory sport package if available. That would be incomprehensible.

I get it. You like your car so much. You want everyone to think just like you. But you also need to realize the people on the forum. That build 800hp DD monsters like me. Or actually drive their car like you. Are the except. Not the norm. Most people get these performance cars. Because they look cool. The OP is in California. So he could be stuck in LA grid lock all day Or live 10 minutes from the Gold Coast.

 

[Maggneto]

I live close to the ocean, but still on a hot area that’s high above sea level near LA. I love driving along the CA 101 along the ocean towards San Francisco or the opposite way towards LA and San Diego. I want to enjoy my drive on the freeway while also making daily work commutes enjoyable.

My wife commutes with our EB/PP and absolutely loves it. She especially appreciates the handling and brakes.

When we travel up and down the east coast we take the Mustang as well. It is a very comfortable riding car even with the stiffer suspension.

Keep in mind that when test driving an Ecoboost at a dealership there will be 87 octane in the tank which translates into approximately 50+ less HP. These cars run best with 93 octane.

Good luck

 

[320guy]

I own a EB PP and drove a convertible non PP a couple of months ago. The non PP feelt more like a sedan, not like a sport car.

The bigger brakes and better suspension, the car feels more planted. It’s a better handling and the A10 with the 3.55 is a great combo. The suspension is not that hard, you can also add magnaride option.

Also, these cars have ANC, unless you change your exhaust, your ride will be quiet with any of the gears.

 

[MaskedRacerX]

I have a MY16 GT convertible with the PP (I realize you're looking at an EB), bought it new in '15 (it was tough to track down, had it shipped from MD to FL).

Anyway, being a convertible, I haven't had it on track, nor do I plan to, but I wanted something that was a little more planted, I liked some of the equipment even for just knocking around town (better cooling, the 3:73 gears are a ton of fun), and liked the PP wheel setup.

That being said, 3.5 years later, I'm shopping a replacement, giving serious consideration to another GT, this time a 10-speed auto, however, I'm leaning towards not getting another PP car.

Right up front I'd swap out the springs, wheels, and tires (probably the same setup as my current car). So there's some PP things I've paid for that have no/so-so value in the used market. I can get the car with the 3.55 rear as a stand-alone option.

There a few other items that make the car more fun to drive, but on the street, it's just not __that__ much of a difference.

The one performance item that's also a nice aesthetic upgrade is the front Brembos, I'll guess I'll cross that bridge when I come to it.

The one thing that's pretty crappy is that Ford wraps up the mag-suspension with the PP, so if you want that tech, it winds up being like $6K (PP + Mag), even though obviously you're getting the other PP perks.

One thing I would consider: if you're kind of shopping price, I'd look at a GT convertible with fewer options vs. a loaded PP EB, unless there's other major factors like insurance, etc. I also understand there's a "base" EB vert where the GT vert is only available in the Premium finish, so that's a decent price difference.

 

[Rock&Roll]

The PP wasn’t worth it for me. Only you can decide.

I don’t Track mine. My car handles fine and stops fine and I hate black wheels. 3.30 gears are fine. When I punch it in 1st it seems pretty short and I have to shift right away. Sometimes I just don’t bother and wait till I’m in 2nd gear to punch it. The 3.73 is even shorter. To each there own. Best to drive both and you decide.

 

[nastang87xx]

Better brakes mean better stopping power.

Better master cylinders or better pads means better stopping power. Bigger brake hardware on the hub side doesn't really mean more stopping power. Bigger brakes allows for better thermal management under constant use. You can get brake pads for base level cars that will out perform the Performance Pack cars.

Which brings up another point too. If the car is a DD and will not really see autocross or tracking and have to wonder if a performance oriented option is the right choice for you, why put yourself into a position where your consumables will also be more expensive?

 

[Roger Blose]

All 2018+ Mustang models have the PP1 shocks and struts as standard based on the comments of the Mustang marketing manager in a recent MCA Times article. The staggered wheels, high wear summer Michelin tires, and hard to clean black rims killed it for me. 2018 GT premium A10 with 19 inch polished 5 spoke wheels works out great. The four piston GT brakes look like private label Brembo brakes off of the old Boss 302 and work really well.

 

[SVO MkII]

As others posted, you really need to go drive them yourself. Everyone's opinion is subjective. I love my EB PP car, wouldn't consider a non-PP car. But that's just me. It's also worth noting that I have achieved just over 30 mpg driving back and forth between Chicago and Terre-Haute...and that is a 6sp car with the 3.55s. Good luck!

 

[jimmerheck]

go rent a convertible Mustang like I did for a day or two. If you are going to spend this much money on a car, a day or two car rental is peanuts compared to the actual price of a new or used car. That made me realize I would never buy one, it just wasnt right for me.

 

[GreenS550]

If it is available with Magneride, definitely do it. I can say after many Mustangs, mods, etc, etc, the Magneride removes the harshness of the standard mustang ride. PP1 might be slightly rougher, but PP1 with Magneride is better than any other Mustang ride. Hands down.

 

[Maggneto]

Better master cylinders or better pads means better stopping power. Bigger brake hardware on the hub side doesn't really mean more stopping power. Bigger brakes allows for better thermal management under constant use. You can get brake pads for base level cars that will out perform the Performance Pack cars.

Which brings up another point too. If the car is a DD and will not really see autocross or tracking and have to wonder if a performance oriented option is the right choice for you, why put yourself into a position where your consumables will also be more expensive?

So the PP brakes offer no advantage over the non PP brakes? I find that hard the believe. When it comes to breaking, it doesn't matter if you are driving to the store or around the track, better brakes along with better components with the PP mean shorter stopping distances. All brakes are not equal. Using the same pads in non PP and PP brakes should yield different results right?

"Bigger isn't necessarily better when it comes to all things automotive. But when talking about brakes, size generally does matter.

That's because braking performance depends in large part upon how much surface area the brake pads have to bite into. Larger pads and larger brake discs make for shorter stopping distances. In addition, the increased surface area allows for greater heat dispersal. Excessive heat, as we learned, is the enemy of stopping effectiveness"

 

[canyon ed]

So the PP brakes offer no advantage over the non PP brakes? I find that hard the believe. When it comes to breaking, it doesn't matter if you are driving to the store or around the track, better brakes along with better components with the PP mean.shorter stopping distances. All brakes are not equal.

"Bigger isn't necessarily better when it comes to all things automotive. But when talking about brakes, size generally does matter.

That's because braking performance depends in large part upon how much surface area the brake pads have to bite into. Larger pads and larger brake discs make for shorter stopping distances. In addition, the increased surface area allows for greater heat dispersal. Excessive heat, as we learned, is the enemy of stopping effectiveness"

Brembo's are the PP1 brakes and they stop way faster !! They are on my Build.

 

[Jimmy]

Does the PP have less ground clearance?

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