Which BMWs offer heated or cooled Recaros? I didn't think there were any.
The freaking Focus ST has heated Recaros. There is no excuse for this not to be available on 2015 Mustang Recaros.I don't think the recaros need to be heated or cooled.... If they improve the standard seats feel as much as they look improved I think they will do just fine.
I believe you are saying that if Ford improved the feel of the standard seats as much as they improved their look, the standard seats would do just fine?I don't think the recaros need to be heated or cooled.... If they improve the standard seats feel as much as they look improved I think they will do just fine.
Cadillac offers heated and cooled Recaros in the CTS-VWhich BMWs offer heated or cooled Recaros? I didn't think there were any.
I didn't say that they did, I just referred to competing with them. They might not be Recaro's but BMW does offer heating and cooling in their upgrade sport seats.Which BMWs offer heated or cooled Recaros? I didn't think there were any.
I didn't say that they did, I just referred to competing with them. They might not be Recaro's but BMW does offer heating and cooling in their upgrade sport seats.
The freaking Focus ST has heated Recaros. There is no excuse for this not to be available on 2015 Mustang Recaros.
The M235i is on my radar, as well as the S550, reviews are showing up for the M235i, I will have a hard time choosing my next ride.I do think this new Mustang is out-competing BMW in a lot of ways BMW fans have been asking for though. I was following the 2 series but its not a consideration with how this new stang has stepped up.
I've also been looking at that, somehow better looking than the 135 but still not great IMO. I like the interior and looks to have a more use-able rear seat but who knows. Main problem though, is lightly optioned I'm looking at $49,250...The M235i is on my radar, as well as the S550, reviews are showing up for the M235i, I will have a hard time choosing my next ride.
M235i
Ahh BMW continues to disappoint. I've been following the M235i as well, but for a 174" car, it's 3550 lb (MT estimated) -- and of course, it comes with an equally bloated price close to $45K. For me, the S550 is still the front runner provided they can eliminate some weight.The M235i is on my radar, as well as the S550, reviews are showing up for the M235i, I will have a hard time choosing my next ride. M235i
Ahh BMW continues to disappoint. I've been following the M235i as well, but for a 174" car, it's 3550 lb (MT estimated) -- and of course, it comes with an equally bloated price close to $45K. For me, the S550 is still the front runner provided they can eliminate some weight.
The M235i Loaded is around $55K MSRP With LSD, $52K W/O LSD, can be had for around invoice + $100-$500. I'm guessing the S550, loaded, should be around $45K-$50K MSRP-->:shrug:Can you price it at $45k or is that base MSRP? I know Mercedes puts a minimum option trim level(navi, heated seats...) for the US market where a base model might be $40k but you can't find one on a showroom floor for less than $51k. At least with the Mustang being an American car the US market seems to get more freedom with the level of options.
The cheapest M235i build I could make was with a vinyl (or whatever plastic they use) interior called Sensatec (no cloth!?), white exterior (all other colors add $500), and sadly I don't get a discount when selecting manual transmission. The total with transport was $44025, base MSRP is $43100. The way the base is optioned is very limiting and a huge turn off in addition to the weight.Can you price it at $45k or is that base MSRP? I know Mercedes puts a minimum option trim level(navi, heated seats...) for the US market where a base model might be $40k but you can't find one on a showroom floor for less than $51k. At least with the Mustang being an American car the US market seems to get more freedom with the level of options.
So a 'base' M235i for about the same price as a fully loaded S550 GT? I know what I would choose...The cheapest M235i build I could make was with a vinyl (or whatever plastic they use) interior called Sensatec (no cloth!?), white exterior (all other colors add $500), and sadly I don't get a discount when selecting manual transmission. The total with transport was $44025, base MSRP is $43100. The way the base is optioned is very limiting and a huge turn off in addition to the weight.
I have doubts you would be able to get a GT optioned anywhere near $50k, unless you load up every single dealer added accessory and then some. I can see $45k but not much more.The M235i Loaded is around $55K MSRP With LSD, $52K W/O LSD, can be had for around invoice + $100-$500. I'm guessing the S550, loaded, should be around $45K-$50K MSRP-->:shrug: