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Oh I'm getting raped by insurance here in metro Detroit, it's 400 a month. Clean record, good neighborhood too. Frustrating. These cars cant be that costly to repair can they? I'm sure there's many other factors, there must be.
Dude, you live in MI...THEE worst state for car insurance and car ownership, in general. When I left Michigan, I saw just how expensive it is to drive there. My monthly premium in MI was slightly less than my 6 month premium here in NC. Let that marinate for a minute...
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Oh I'm getting raped by insurance here in metro Detroit, it's 400 a month. Clean record, good neighborhood too. Frustrating. These cars cant be that costly to repair can they? I'm sure there's many other factors, there must be.
I used to live in Metro Detroit, and inside the city itself.

I'm still seeing a rape counselor over the insurance premiums I paid there. Lots of dolls, pointing to crotchular areas where the financial assaults took place.

I feel like an Catholic Altar boy.
 

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My insurance premiums have been steadily creeping up. My record's squeaky clean, no accidents. My only pullovers have been warnings for no front license plate.

I'll have to shop around. I'm thinking geico gave me a real good rate to get me sign up, but they've been steadily increasing to the point I'm near my old rate from usaa (who wouldn't budge).
 

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I used to live in Metro Detroit, and inside the city itself.

I'm still seeing a rape counselor over the insurance premiums I paid there. Lots of dolls, pointing to crotchular areas where the financial assaults took place.

I feel like an Catholic Altar boy.
Every one of those dolls look like the mayhem guy? lol
 

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Are Your Rated Always Going Up?

I've tracked the insurance cost on my 2015 GT since I bought it new in March 2015. I've been with State Farm forever and have all my vehicles and homeowner's insurance through them, so I do get some discounts. Not one claim over the last 20+ years.

However, I've noticed the insurance on the Mustang GT has gone up ~30% in 2 years. Started at $62/mo when brand new in Mar 2015 and is not $80/mo. Same exact coverage. And the value of the car is constantly going down, yet the insurance cost is really going up. I've never seen any of my vehicles go up 30% in two years.

So is it the car or is it State Farm?

How about you guys ... have you seen your rated sky rocket over the last 2 years regardless of who's your insurance company?
 

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How about you guys ... have you seen your rated sky rocket over the last 2 years regardless of who's your insurance company?
Yes, my first quote from Progressive was ridiculous(IMO), so I switched to Farmers and it was still high but saved maybe $300 or so over 6 monhts. Within a month or two, they raised it a couple hundred bucks. I think that was when they jacked up Mustang rates across the board. Then every renewal has gone up. It has more than doubled in two years. And I have no tickets, no accidents. I just switched to Liberty Mutual, back to the rate I started at. Now to see what games they play.
 

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Yes, my first quote from Progressive was ridiculous(IMO), so I switched to Farmers and it was still high but saved maybe $300 or so over 6 monhts. Within a month or two, they raised it a couple hundred bucks. I think that was when they jacked up Mustang rates across the board. Then every renewal has gone up. It has more than doubled in two years. And I have no tickets, no accidents. I just switched to Liberty Mutual, back to the rate I started at. Now to see what games they play.
The last quote I got from Farmers the rep told me I was jumping around carriers too much and that was hurting my rate. The level of BS these carriers spew is amazing.

The winning formula seems to be on top of a clean driving record:
Live in a quiet rural community
Keep your miles under 15k a year
Insure multiple vehicle, life home and health with the same carrier.

So now I just need to become a NYTBS author and work from home and I'm set.
 

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The last quote I got from Farmers the rep told me I was jumping around carriers too much and that was hurting my rate. The level of BS these carriers spew is amazing.

The winning formula seems to be on top of a clean driving record:
Live in a quiet rural community
Keep your miles under 15k a year
Insure multiple vehicle, life home and health with the same carrier.

So now I just need to become a NYTBS author and work from home and I'm set.
That part is true. You have an insurance score much like you have a credit score. When you jump around you're length of time insured starts over. So if you've had company A for 1 year it doesn't really matter that you had company B for 20. You'll have the same length of time insured as the guy that had a lapse and jumped onto a company just to get insurance.

Credit is the biggest factor though. Just like anything else. Better credit always equates to better rates.
 

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The winning formula seems to be on top of a clean driving record:
Live in a quiet rural community
Keep your miles under 15k a year
Insure multiple vehicle, life home and health with the same carrier.
One of the primary rating factors, at least here in NJ, is one's credit rating. Regardless of miles driven or a spotless MV record, if you show pattern of poor credit and late payments, you're a much bigger risk and will pay accordingly.
 

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One of the primary rating factors, at least here in NJ, is one's credit rating. Regardless of miles driven or a spotless MV record, if you show pattern of poor credit and late payments, you're a much bigger risk and will pay accordingly.
Yeah, I forgot about that.

Why do they do that? Seems strange because if your payment is late they just drop your plan. It's not like a credit card company that still has a balance to recover from you. In fact if you pay late and have to be reinstated they hit you with another fee.
 

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Credit is the biggest factor though. Just like anything else. Better credit always equates to better rates.
I hope everyone realizes this is complete and utter bullshit. A credit score should mean absolutely nothing when it comes to insurance, and it's something that needs actual legislation to stop. It's just an excuse the insurance industry uses to make more money.

A credit rating is important to companies that offer credit and loans, so they can tell what sort of exposure risk they would have lending/extending credit to a person.

An insurance company only has exposure if there's an accident, and the way to gauge exposure in that regard is a person's driving record. A credit score is, in no way, shape or form, an indicator of how likely a person is to have an accident.
 

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I hope everyone realizes this is complete and utter bullshit. A credit score should mean absolutely nothing when it comes to insurance, and it's something that needs actual legislation to stop. It's just an excuse the insurance industry uses to make more money.

A credit rating is important to companies that offer credit and loans, so they can tell what sort of exposure risk they would have lending/extending credit to a person.

An insurance company only has exposure if there's an accident, and the way to gauge exposure in that regard is a person's driving record. A credit score is, in no way, shape or form, an indicator of how likely a person is to have an accident.
If you don't give a sh*t about your credit or your payments you probably don't care about much else either. It shows a level of responsibility. Insurance companies are on the hook for tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of dollars depending on your policy, why wouldn't they use every factor available to determine your risk. Higher risk equals higher premiums and vise versa.

I don't necessarily agree with it but I see why they do it.
 
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If you don't give a sh*t about your credit or your payments you probably don't care about much else either. It shows a level of responsibility. Insurance companies are on the hook for tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of dollars depending on your policy, why wouldn't they use every factor available to determine your risk. Higher risk equals higher premiums and vise versa.

I don't necessarily agree with it but I see why they do it.
I completely agree. Good credit can be an indicator of someone who has been responsible with payments and money in the past. To an insurance company, that's gold. They see a person with a higher credit score as less of a liability. It makes sense. But so does a lower insurance premium for someone with a perfect record.

Whether anybody likes it or not, our credit score is deeply ingrained in our everyday lives. Buying cars, houses, etc. Some employers even require a credit check to get the job.
 

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I lived in the Netherlands for a year and from my understanding the people there didn't even understand the concept of a credit score. Not saying it didn't exist as it could have been a language barrier issue (though the dutch speak spectacular English in general) but the few people I spoke with about it were baffled.
 

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I lived in the Netherlands for a year and from my understanding the people there didn't even understand the concept of a credit score. Not saying it didn't exist as it could have been a language barrier issue (though the dutch speak spectacular English in general) but the few people I spoke with about it were baffled.
I am from the Netherlands, and have family that still lives there. I can tell you this is not true. I do not know who you were speaking with, some things must have been lost in translation as you mentioned. If you try to get a credit card or loan they will use the same factors, income, payment history, how long you have been employed, etc to determine if you are eligible. I do not think the "score" from the US transfers over there, don't know tbh, but overall it's the same basic principle just not called "credit score"
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