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He was merely exposing the weakness of such a system in his opinion when it comes to disease control. My reason for posting was that you and others suggested it was not a problem being decentralised. Jeffrey Levi, Professor of Health Policy and Management at George Washington University doesn't seem to agree with you however.
He was simply sharing his opinion...exactly. First, one has to agree with that OPINION. Second, one who agrees has to believe that the weakness is so great that the U.S. should change its form of government. Professor Levi disagreeing with me does not concern me anymore than him wanting to recoup wasted figurehead funding to pay for the security of two former royals.
 

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Does not make it government owned or run. It is similar to the US federal reserve banks.
BBC is not government owned. It is subsidized.
You didn't appear to know much about the BBC from your incorrect posts

Your link points to a discussion about funding, but only confirms that it is funded by the UK public.
Really? Are you serious? Are you saying that the BBC is not government funded? Funded by the UK public via taxes. That means it is government funded.

"The fee is set by the British Government, agreed by Parliament,[14] and used to fund the BBC's radio, TV, and online services covering the nations and regions of the UK."

Get real.
 

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He was simply sharing his opinion...exactly. First, one has to agree with that OPINION. Second, one who agrees has to believe that the weakness is so great that the U.S. should change its form of government. Professor Levi disagreeing with me does not concern me anymore than him wanting to recoup wasted figurehead funding to pay for the security of two former royals.
I'm not suggesting it is going to change the US constitution - but just demonstrating that the decentralised system, in the view of a professor with expertise in that area, will hamper the control of the disease. This is something you and others were suggesting wasn't the case when I asked. I should also add that some replied with the opinion that it would hamper control measures a few days ago.

Incidentally, if I irritate you so much with my posting you really don't have to reply - I will not be offended !
 

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Does not make it government owned or run. It is similar to the US federal reserve banks.
It is nothing like the federal reserve. The point is from an information perspective, the BBC is more like VOA than it is like a public US network. The government influences the message. What does that have to do with a federal reserve?
 

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BBC is not government owned. It is subsidized.

Really? Are you serious? Are you saying that the BBC is not government funded? Funded by the UK public via taxes. That means it is government funded.

"The fee is set by the British Government, agreed by Parliament,[14] and used to fund the BBC's radio, TV, and online services covering the nations and regions of the UK."

Get real.
Fee agreed and set by the government but PAID by the general public. I pay my license fee every year directly to the BBC.
 

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I'm not suggesting it is going to change the US constitution - but just demonstrating that the decentralised system, in the view of a professor with expertise in that area, will hamper the control of the disease. This is something you and others were suggesting wasn't the case when I asked. I should also add that some replied with the opinion that it would hamper control measures a few days ago.

Incidentally, if I irritate you so much with my posting you really don't have to reply - I will not be offended !
He is a professor of public health, not of governance. Centralization is more "efficient" in any case of government control. It is not efficient in developing solutions and is not conducive to democracy. Most important, most recent death trends (last night's) do not substantiate a deduction that a centralized system is more effective in this circumstance than a decentralized one. Facts. Facts. Facts.

Not irritated by the arrogance of a fallen empire; amused by it.
 

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Fee agreed and set by the government but PAID by the general public. I pay my license fee every year directly to the BBC.
Governments have two ways to make money: taxes and tariffs. So, by setting the fees (taxes) the government is controlling the companies income (means of production). It is government paid. None of this applies to truly free press. More vestiges of a non-democratic system.
 

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He is a professor of public health, not of governance. Centralization is more "efficient" in any case of government control. It is not efficient in developing solutions and is not conducive to democracy. Most important, most recent death trends (last night's) do not substantiate a deduction that a centralized system is more effective in this circumstance than a decentralized one. Facts. Facts. Facts.

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A professor of Public Health sounds like the ideal person to advise on matters of public health don't you think ?

He doesn't seem to agree with you and cites some states where things have worked well and others where it hasn't - decentralised = disjointed = Caballus goes off on one :like:
 

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Governments have two ways to make money: taxes and tariffs. So, by setting the fees (taxes) the government is controlling the companies income (means of production). It is government paid. None of this applies to truly free press. More vestiges of a non-democratic system.
It is neither a tax nor a tariff. If you don't own a TV you don't have to pay.

Truly free press owned by ........... Ah - not really very independent is it Mr Maxwell et al
 

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It is nothing like the federal reserve. The point is from an information perspective, the BBC is more like VOA than it is like a public US network. The government influences the message. What does that have to do with a federal reserve?
The BBC is a publicly owned statutory corporation. It has no shareholders, and was created by royal charter, thus, granted legal status by the crown and guaranteed to exist by law. This is similar to our federal reserve banks as both are funded by gov't but not gov't owned.

Gov't influence onto BBC would be hard to prove.
 

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A professor of Public Health sounds like the ideal person to advise on matters of public health don't you think ?

He doesn't seem to agree with you and cites some states where things have worked well and others where it hasn't - decentralised = disjointed = Caballus goes off on one :like:
Public health, not governance. You have a hard time differentiating, it seems.

1. Should Constitutional democratic governance processes and structures be guided by public health?
2. Has the centraliZed system of England and its satellite states proven to be statistically more effective in this public health emergency?

Answer x 2 = no.
 

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Public health, not governance. You have a hard time differentiating, it seems.

1. Should Constitutional democratic governance processes and structures be guided by public health?
2. Has the centraliZed system of England and its satellite states proven to be statistically more effective in this public health emergency?

Answer x 2 = no.
In a case like this they are intertwined. As I say again - an expert in the field disagrees with your views - end of story.
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