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It is neither a tax nor a tariff. If you don't own a TV you don't have to pay.

Truly free press owned by ........... Ah - not really very independent is it Mr Maxwell et al
So, you only pay TV tax if you own a TV? Makes sense to me.

Can you decide that you will neither watch more pay for BBC if you have a TV or is your wealth redistributed according to a government policy? Hmmmm....

The dead Mr. Maxwell?
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In a case like this they are intertwined. As I say again - an expert in the field disagrees with your views - end of story.
An expert in the field of health who is not an expert in governance. Moreover, you are exaggerating by implying that this non-governance expert called for the constitutional changes that would be necessary to centralize. Or did he not say that? If not, what's your point?
 

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The BBC is a publicly owned statutory corporation. It has no shareholders, and was created by royal charter, thus, granted legal status by the crown and guaranteed to exist by law. This is similar to our federal reserve banks as both are funded by gov't but not gov't owned.

Gov't influence onto BBC would be hard to prove.
Thank you for your cut and paste from wikipedia.
 

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No thanks necessary! Let me know if you need anymore help.
Help me understand what nation in the world has news media with worldwide reach but no government involvement; neither through funding nor through vetting of personnel. Are there any?
 

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Not true. First, the question was about what country, not which network. UK does not qualify. Second, BBC the UK government is VERY involved in BBC funding. Wrong as usual. Quite a trend.
I’m not quite sure that I understand what’s going on here.

Can I have a little rant here?

The UK Govt. sets the cost and collects the fees. You can opt out.

This isn’t the same as the Aussie model where every taxpayer contributes directly to the government through taxes, with no provision for opting out. (Works out around AUD $80 annually or ~ USD $45)
This doesn’t mean that the government has ANY say in the reporting provided by these outlets.

To use the Aussie example, where the majority of the media hold a right-wing bias (predominantly Murdoch owned) and the government is of a RW persuasion, the ABC is one of the very few media outlets that actually presents coherent reporting of facts and also runs a program dedicated to pointing out where the media (including their very own journalists) get it wrong.

Of course, the right-wing accuse the ABC of “leftist” reporting but this is simply because they are sitting in an echo-chamber of right wing Murdoch media. Anything that disagrees with their perceptions MUST be left-wing by default.

Meanwhile, those to the far left argue that the ABC isn’t on their side either...:headbang:

Regardless of any of that, what you most certainly don’t want is one man with significant business interests being left in charge of all of your media.
 

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I’m not quite sure that I understand what’s going on here.

Can I have a little rant here?

The UK Govt. sets the cost and collects the fees. You can opt out.

This isn’t the same as the Aussie model where every taxpayer contributes directly to the government through taxes, with no provision for opting out. (Works out around AUD $80 annually or ~ USD $45)
This doesn’t mean that the government has ANY say in the reporting provided by these outlets.

To use the Aussie example, where the majority of the media hold a right-wing bias (predominantly Murdoch owned) and the government is of a RW persuasion, the ABC is one of the very few media outlets that actually presents coherent reporting of facts and also runs a program dedicated to pointing out where the media (including their very own journalists) get it wrong.

Of course, the right-wing accuse the ABC of “leftist” reporting but this is simply because they are sitting in an echo-chamber of right wing Murdoch media. Anything that disagrees with their perceptions MUST be left-wing by default.

Meanwhile, those to the far left argue that the ABC isn’t on their side either...:headbang:

Regardless of any of that, what you most certainly don’t want is one man with significant business interests being left in charge of all of your media.
Rant allowed. It's a political thread on an internet car forum...

Point is the US is the only nation with worldwide 24hr news channel(s) that are not supplemented, screened, or controlled in any way by the USG. Left v. right arguments are not based on government influence.

A man with business interests is a private citizen. You can buy or establish a media outlet just as you can buy or establish a webpage. In so doing, you can exercise your 1st Amendment rights free from formal government relationships.
 

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Not sure who did the original interview with him or what the format was, but reported and quoted by the BBC today
If it is from the BBC it should be ignored
 

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More Federal Republics than I realised

Looks like we even gave it a go

  • 16px-Flag_of_Switzerland.svg.webp
    Switzerland (1848–present), a federal republic but called the Swiss Confederation
Looks like ancient history to me, Venezuela is hardly a republic, Ethiopia? Really? USSR? A Republic in name only.
 

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Help me understand what nation in the world has news media with worldwide reach but no government involvement; neither through funding nor through vetting of personnel. Are there any?
What is the relevance here?
 

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Depends if you believe influence === involvement.
You offered to help. Question was clear. Now there are conditions. When you hit the objective, either the support is in place or it's not. + or - 30 seconds. You didn't come through. It's ok. Moving on.
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