I like COVID 19

[watisthis]

Brain Kemp, from stealing an election, to appointing crooked Kelly Loeffler who dumped her retail stocks and bought shares in medical supply manufacturers prior to release of covid19 information, to this - https://www.huffpost.com/entry/bria...matic_n_5e857738c5b60bbd734f174e?guccounter=1

If all of this wasn't documented you would think it was made up.

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[Caballus]

This would suggest 'decentralise' isn't the answer after all ?

Interesting that you insisted you were not questioning or criticizing the U.S. approach, but simply trying to understand it. Now, you seem to be providing advice to the United States of America. Nice.

1st, sincere condolences for the 563 additional people the UK lost overnight.

Now, consider the following:

• While any loss is tragic, and the projected 240k, if it comes to fruition, will be extremely disheartening, it amounts to less than 1% of the U.S. population. Therefore, the operative question is whether the threat, as currently perceived, warrants totally revamping the U.S. system of governance, with a particular focus on lessening the restraints placed on the government. You will undoubtedly find that the answer from the owners of our written Constitution (the American citizens) will overwhelmingly say 'no'.
• The next question would be whether a national state of emergency is warranted at this point, a mechanism for granting greater authority to the central government without changing our constitution; again, you will find the answer is no.
• Why? Since parting ways with King George III, we no longer have the great fortune of being ruled (or even advised) by a divine monarch who was placed by God. Decentralization is fundamental to what the United States is, just as your constitutional monarchy (without a written constitution) is fundamental to the UK's national personality.
  
• So, rather than tilting at windmills, how about focusing on sharing ways the UK can approach the situation better...or are you there already?

 

[Caballus]

Not sure who did the original interview with him or what the format was, but reported and quoted by the BBC today

Isn't BBC paid for by the government, unlike our competing "mainstream" news outlets?

 

[Hack]

Isn't BBC paid for by the government, unlike our competing "mainstream" news outlets?

Government run media.

 

[watisthis]

Government run media.

No, the BBC is not state owned or state controlled.

 

[Gregs24]

Isn't BBC paid for by the government, unlike our competing "mainstream" news outlets?

Government run media.

No it is NOT state run or owned media. Anyway they were quoting Prof Levi, so if you don't like it take it up with him.

 

[Gregs24]

Interesting that you insisted you were not questioning or criticizing the U.S. approach, but simply trying to understand it. Now, you seem to be providing advice to the United States of America. Nice.

1st, sincere condolences for the 563 additional people the UK lost overnight.

Now, consider the following:

• While any loss is tragic, and the projected 240k, if it comes to fruition, will be extremely disheartening, it amounts to less than 1% of the U.S. population. Therefore, the operative question is whether the threat, as currently perceived, warrants totally revamping the U.S. system of governance, with a particular focus on lessening the restraints placed on the government. You will undoubtedly find that the answer from the owners of our written Constitution (the American citizens) will overwhelmingly say 'no'.
• The next question would be whether a national state of emergency is warranted at this point, a mechanism for granting greater authority to the central government without changing our constitution; again, you will find the answer is no.
• Why? Since parting ways with King George III, we no longer have the great fortune of being ruled (or even advised) by a divine monarch who was placed by God. Decentralization is fundamental to what the United States is, just as your constitutional monarchy (without a written constitution) is fundamental to the UK's national personality.
  
• So, rather than tilting at windmills, how about focusing on sharing ways the UK can approach the situation better...or are you there already?

Condolences also for the 884 deaths on your side of the pond too.

I'm not providing advice just posting stuff from your side of the pond that I found interesting as well as some stuff from over here that you said you wanted me to do.

Incidentally our monarch is a figurehead with no powers, we are run by our democratically elected Government.

If you don't like what Prof Levi posted about decentralisation take it up with him not me.

 

[Caballus]

Condolences also for the 884 deaths on your side of the pond too.

I'm not providing advice just posting stuff from your side of the pond that I found interesting as well as some stuff from over here that you said you wanted me to do.

Incidentally our monarch is a figurehead with no powers, we are run by our democratically elected Government.

If you don't like what Prof Levi posted about decentralisation take it up with him not me.

Prof Levi's opinion is just that. We all have them, and we know what follows.

Seems that the funding going to maintaining a powerless figurehead could be used more effectively elsewhere (like COVID tests)--from an outside point of view. Guess you got some of it back by shedding an element of the monarchy recently...

 

[Caballus]

No it is NOT state run or owned media. Anyway they were quoting Prof Levi, so if you don't like it take it up with him.

State funded...

 

[Gregs24]

The BBC is a statutory corporation, independent from direct government intervention, with its activities being overseen from April 2017 by the BBC Board and regulated by Ofcom.

Funded by the British public via a license fee

It is arguably the only true independent news media company. Most other media companies (other than state owned ones) are owned by individuals or companies that inevitably have political and business interests

 

[Gregs24]

Prof Levi's opinion is just that. We all have them, and we know what follows.

Seems that the funding going to maintaining a powerless figurehead could be used more effectively elsewhere (like COVID tests)--from an outside point of view. Guess you got some of it back by shedding an element of the monarchy recently...

I'm more inclined to believe him than you as it so happens

 

[Gregs24]

State funded...

Nope - The principal means of funding the BBC is through the television licence, costing £154.50 per year per household since April 2019

Read about the BBC here, you might learn something !

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBC

 

[Caballus]

I'm more inclined to believe him than you as it so happens

I have offered no opinion, only fact. Levi did not, and is not in position to, recommend constitutional changes any more than he's in position to recommend monarchical changes.

 

[Caballus]

Nope - The principal means of funding the BBC is through the television licence, costing £154.50 per year per household since April 2019

Read about the BBC here, you might learn something !

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBC

You have no idea what I know or don't know...more superior British assumptions...

https://apnews.com/20fd0363b96823e55b1e56d0591e268e

 

[Gregs24]

I have offered no opinion, only fact. Levi did not, and is not in position to, recommend constitutional changes any more than he's in position to recommend monarchical changes.

He was merely exposing the weakness of such a system in his opinion when it comes to disease control. My reason for posting was that you and others suggested it was not a problem being decentralised. Jeffrey Levi, Professor of Health Policy and Management at George Washington University doesn't seem to agree with you however.

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