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Did you do it yourself? I haven't looked at the bell housing on these yet, but how hard is it to get it off of the block? The last time I changed a clutch was on my 20014 Terminator, and there was one bolt that nearly cost me an arm.

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This car also has a sloppy rear end. It's not a big deal and I don't even notice it most of the time now. Taking out the clutch spring was night and day though. I was cussing my car daily with the stock spring in there. It makes a driver look like a complete newb, and it ws even worse for me because I drive on cobblestone streets almost every day.
 

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Sounds like the rev hang issue. Bring the RPMs up higher before you shift. If you're going to continue to drive the way you are, wait for the RPMs to drop down before releasing the clutch.

Annoying, I know, but the "bounce" and "clunk" issue should go away. It still happens to me sometimes.
 
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So I tried shifting today right out of 1st into 2nd early sub 2k revolutions and it was smooth without issue. To the poster a few posts up, I have no problems shifting to 2nd under acceleration, but sometimes in city driving you just need to get out of first but need gentle to no acceleration. Shifting early at low rpms solved the problem for me, so thanks to the poster who chipped in with that. Seems everyone likes the Steed spring and it certainly looks easy enough and cheap enough to do now rather than latter
 

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Oh boy whatever you do don't complain about the mt82... People will think your stupid and just don't know how to drive.
 

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I actually like the stock clutch feel now that I am used to it.

For me, I need to get on the gas in second gear earlier than I normally expect in order to make a smooth shift. Otherwise the engine braking will cause the car to lurch. Once you get recalibrated to the gas pedal modulation I think the shifting gets much smoother. In the Mustang it seems getting on the gas a bit earlier is helpful.

-T
I agree with liking the clutch feel now. Took me a while to get used to it. I always lurched in 1st and 2nd shifting. I wasn't sure if it was a quick clutch release, too much gas, too little gas. I just wasn't sure what to do. But I think having the engine cold or warm makes a difference as well.

Now, when engine is cold, I roll out of my driveway without any gas what so ever. I then give gas and rpm to about 2000-2500rpm. Then when I shift into 2nd and fully release the clutch before giving gas. This technique has worked for me with a cold engine, no bucking at all. Once warm, all is good for me
 

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I have had all these issues as well. I pulled the clutch spring in the first 200km I had the car and it was night and day better. at 3400km I just put in the Steeda spring and after driving for 50km I would say that it is literally perfect now. The movement of the pedal is light and easy to control. Very predictable.
 

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My trick is to wait until the rpm drops to the right value before shifting into 2nd, also make sure to NOT touch the gas pedal until the clutch is engaged (i.e., up) fully.
 

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The Steeda spring helped a lot but I still had a bit of jerkiness that I finally found would go away if i took my time on the 1 - 2 shift. AKA very smoothly push the clutch in, go to neutral, move the shift down towards second until you feel the synchronizers working, let it drop in to gear, and gently let the clutch all the way out before getting into the throttle. Even at lower RPMs it makes the shift buttery smooth.
 

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Yes. I put about 9k miles on the stock spring. I got used to it but occasionally in parking lots unfortunately I would get that annoying back and forth motion and would just have to engage clutch all the way and stars over. The stock clutch spring is way to strong and you have to ride the pedal a alittle longer for it to not do it. Not always the easiest thing due to how strong thay spring is. You cant compress it with your hand and it will make swapping it out a fun job if you don't have the right plyers. I got lucky and found some.at work so I swapped it on my break lol. There are some good threads and pics of you do a search. The steeda spring will make sure that never happens again. If you haven't driven car for many miles the transition will be tit's at first. I took a few drives to get used to but love it now!
 

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Spring removed here, my shifting (first manual car) improved by 98%.

As far as damage concerns when removing the spring, I have always had the steeda marketing bs in the back of my head so I occasionally pull the clutch pedal up with my foot after shifting and have never noticed any play whatsoever, thus telling me the spring is not necessary.
 

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Did you do it yourself? I haven't looked at the bell housing on these yet, but how hard is it to get it off of the block? The last time I changed a clutch was on my 20014 Terminator, and there was one bolt that nearly cost me an arm.

-Jeff
No lift, and having done a few clutches before, I have no desire to do this one. Completely worth the 400 bucks they charged me.
 

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I did the terminator clutch on jack stands. That may have been 99% of my problem.
 

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Strike that... I forgot, I had the front crash beam connected to a hoist and lifted up about 3 feet.
 

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Spring removed here, my shifting (first manual car) improved by 98%.

As far as damage concerns when removing the spring, I have always had the steeda marketing bs in the back of my head so I occasionally pull the clutch pedal up with my foot after shifting and have never noticed any play whatsoever, thus telling me the spring is not necessary.
I know people who have removed it and now clutch pedal dosnt fully return. Will most likely result in premature clutch failure. Do as you wish but I find it Funny when people think they out smarted engineers who have built the car or designed aftermarket parts. The steeda spring is a great upgrade, and made driving the car a lot better.
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