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The Chairman
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Appears to be a plastic matrix:
The filter feels like a very tough material, not paper. The liner is quite solid as well.
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Why?
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because the filter can collapse from the gt500 oil pump pressure……ive seen it happen on a gt350…..thats why they updated it to the 2087 for them also
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Definitely no engineer but if it's good enough for Don, it's good enough for me. I fortunately, did my usual "over buy" on oil and filters awhile back so I got lucky for once. But, I wouldn't hesitate to put Don's K&N in my girl if I had to. For sure the K&N folks (or someone they contracted,) tortured that filter before putting their name on it, the legal exposure is just too great to do otherwise.
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I thought it collapsed from improper installation
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Ive read both reasons. Who knows.
I have no doubt the K&N would suffice, and maybe even surpass the motorcraft. The stiffer filter media would make the need for metal core less, so plastic would probably work. My only concern is the clause about the 2087 being required else the warranty be void. That’s said, I’d put a k&n if I couldn’t find a 2087, and if something happened, let a judge sort it out. I know, big words, but they can’t require that, and require changes every x often and not have them available without an alternative
someone asked about the housing. Yes, they are easier to find, I got one at autonation ford last week, online order. And they come with a 2087 (metal core in it). It’s an expensive work around, but it works.
the best advice I got was from ford performance fleet manager. Your local dealer can order them but must use the special service system. Any ordered through normal order will be cancelled. I don’t know if there is a minimum, but if so, maybe group buy time? One of my dealers told me they could order 12. I almost did that and was going to sell them at my cost (which wouldhave been normal ford cost) here. But then I ran across a few kinda local so I grabbed 3. That gives me enough for 2 years.
hope some of this helps.
The Chairman
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Have never heard of a collapsed oil filter. Just those crushed due to improper installation.
See post #48
shelbykr
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Just compared an FL-2087 and the K&N PS-7037.
The FL-2087 is close to 3.15mm or 1/8 in shorter.
I have a new FL-2087 that will get me into next year and hopefully Ford will be back in stock.
The FL-2087 is close to 3.15mm or 1/8 in shorter.
I have a new FL-2087 that will get me into next year and hopefully Ford will be back in stock.
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Guard5.0
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I would also be curious about the flow characteristics of the K&N if the material feels more coarse or thicker. I’ve used them on other vehicles because they make a good product but I wonder about cold start 50w getting through it and to where it needs to be.
shelbykr
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The FL-2087 I have here is 5.35 (136.8 mm) and from the K&N website specs. 5.5 in (140 mm)Interesting. They look exactly the same size to me:
Would it be 5.5 with the white seal? and 5.35 without.
https://www.knfilters.com/ps-7037-oil-filter
So I am confused now.
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The Chairman
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Beats me. They look the same length. The K&N’s white seal is a soft fabric vice hard plastic on the other one.
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It has more fabric length (height in the pix) and appears to have more pleats. Each pleat seems thinner than the thick paper style of the Motorcraft filter.
I haven’t seen any flow data for either filter. But K&N’s are known for their higher flow rates which is why I use them.
Guard5.0
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Biggest surprise to me is the disparity in price dealer to dealer. Found one at a dealer in Kentucky for $24. Found two more at a small dealership in Indiana for $34/per. I looked at the screen in both places and both were the unit prices in the part system. The Indiana dealer is local to me so I told him about the Kentucky dealer price and that’s what he sold them for. I guess they use the same theory they do with MSRP pricing.
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