First shot at changing oil

[SVTinAR]

It seems like manufacturers are in competition to see whose car they can make more difficult to service. I just did the first oil change on my 2017 and I've changed my own oil all my life and I hate to ask this at 66 years of age - but is Ford really serious about a specific torque spec on the oil filter???:frusty: Or is this just some form of automotive snipe hunt.

What the heck do they figure you are going to torque it with? My 1/2 inch won't go in there. My 1/4 takes too many adaptors to get to fit a 3/4 inch 1/2 inch drive socket. Does a 3/8 inch torque wrench fit in there - or is Ford just telling us to forget tightening the thing like most oil filters and tighten the hell out of this one (which is pretty much what I did).

If they expected a specific torque figure on this thing they should have put a 1/2 square drive hole on the back of the filter wrench instead of that 3/4 inch bolt head.:rant:

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[TRS7139]

There is a drive hole on the proper wrench you should have recieved for free.
Engine vibrates....better torque it properly or it vibrates loose at highway speed.

 

[loco_GT350]

Yeah, don't mess around with this. Get the proper filter socket (you should have received this from Ford) and an accurate torque wrench and make sure you torque the filter down to the proper spec. Too many horror stories about filters loosing up and engines losing oil. As mentioned above these flat plane crank engines have more vibration than cross plane crank engines so the opportunity for the filter to loosen up is higher with this engine.

 

[torque124]

If you didn't receive the supplement with the oil filter socket, this one works (what I am using nowadays)

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00NMOL8T8/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

All you need is a torque wrench and a 1/2 to 3/8 adapter....

Good luck

 

[H6G]

If you didn't receive the supplement with the oil filter socket, this one works (what I am using nowadays)

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00NMOL8T8/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

All you need is a torque wrench and a 1/2 to 3/8 adapter....

Good luck

In my opinion, this filter wrench from Amazon, works better then the one that FP has sent..... No need for a socket/adapter...... since it has a 3/8 opening. It gives you a much lower profile and more room around the filter area..... It works great with a 3/8 Torque Wrench

 

[SVTinAR]

I don't know what drive hole you're talking about in the filter wrench. Is this not the same wrench you received in your Ford Supplement?

 

[SVTinAR]

If you didn't receive the supplement with the oil filter socket, this one works (what I am using nowadays)

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00NMOL8T8/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

All you need is a torque wrench and a 1/2 to 3/8 adapter....

Good luck

In my opinion, this filter wrench from Amazon, works better then the one that FP has sent..... No need for a socket/adapter...... since it has a 3/8 opening. It gives you a much lower profile and more room around the filter area..... It works great with a 3/8 Torque Wrench

This looks like the ticket - guess I'll order one. The Ford one is of no use if they really want it actually torqued down. Maybe if the entire front underside panel is removed something might work on it. Guess I'll need to get a 3/8 inch torque wrench 18 lb-ft is too little for a 1/2 inch TW and too great for a 1/4 inch TW to read accurately.

 

[MrCincinnati]

It seems like manufacturers are in competition to see whose car they can make more difficult to service. I just did the first oil change on my 2017 and I've changed my own oil all my life and I hate to ask this at 66 years of age - but is Ford really serious about a specific torque spec on the oil filter???:frusty: Or is this just some form of automotive snipe hunt.

What the heck do they figure you are going to torque it with? My 1/2 inch won't go in there. My 1/4 takes too many adaptors to get to fit a 3/4 inch 1/2 inch drive socket. Does a 3/8 inch torque wrench fit in there - or is Ford just telling us to forget tightening the thing like most oil filters and tighten the hell out of this one (which is pretty much what I did).

If they expected a specific torque figure on this thing they should have put a 1/2 square drive hole on the back of the filter wrench instead of that 3/4 inch bolt head.:rant:

You don't have a cartridge filter on your 2017?

 

[SVTinAR]

You don't have a cartridge filter on your 2017?

No - it's not an R and it's a fairly early 17. Apparently it fell outside of the canister/disposable element models.

 

[rb92gt]

It seems like manufacturers are in competition to see whose car they can make more difficult to service. I just did the first oil change on my 2017 and I've changed my own oil all my life and I hate to ask this at 66 years of age - but is Ford really serious about a specific torque spec on the oil filter???:frusty: Or is this just some form of automotive snipe hunt.

What the heck do they figure you are going to torque it with? My 1/2 inch won't go in there. My 1/4 takes too many adaptors to get to fit a 3/4 inch 1/2 inch drive socket. Does a 3/8 inch torque wrench fit in there - or is Ford just telling us to forget tightening the thing like most oil filters and tighten the hell out of this one (which is pretty much what I did).

If they expected a specific torque figure on this thing they should have put a 1/2 square drive hole on the back of the filter wrench instead of that 3/4 inch bolt head.:rant:

DO NOT DRIVE THE CAR with the oil filter hand tightened. It must be torqued or it will come loose, and within seconds you will loose all of your oil and toast the $25,000 motor. I use a Craftsman Microtork wrench and a 74.2mm oil filter wrench from Amazon (about $12). Not hard once you do it once or twice. I promise you cannot get it torqued tight enough by hand.

 

[SVTinAR]

DO NOT DRIVE THE CAR with the oil filter hand tightened. You did it WRONG. It must be torqued or it will come loose, and within seconds you will loose all of your oil and toast the $25,000 motor. I use a Craftsman Microtork wrench and a 74.2mm oil filter wrench from Amazon (about $12). Not hard once you do it once or twice. I promise you cannot get it torqued tight enough by hand.

I didn't tighten it by hand - I tightened it with a probably 10 inch long 3/4 inch 6-point box wrench on the filter socket. Tightened the crap out of it.

 

[johnny1]

You should tighten it with a torque wrench to 16-18 lbs. just like the supplement manual says to do!

 

[SVTinAR]

You should tighten it with a torque wrench to 16-18 lbs. just like the supplement manual says to do!

And that takes us back to post #1 which appears to be resolved as of post #7.

 

[jimmybuffit]

How come this is the first time reading about this? Im new to the forum but not to changing oil and if the filter needs to be torqued then how come all the youtube videos including CJ pony parts say hand tight is normal?

I'm about to change the oil in my 15 for the first time this week.

 

[fpa1974]

How come this is the first time reading about this? Im new to the forum but not to changing oil and if the filter needs to be torqued then how come all the youtube videos including CJ pony parts say hand tight is normal?

I'm about to change the oil in my 15 for the first time this week.

In case you are still driving the car in your profile, the tightening with a torque wrench thing is a GT350 only step.

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