Edelbrock E-Force Troubleshooting Manual

[illtal]

There is no 5w35!

I generally use 5w40 but was forced to go redline 5w50 due to unique phaser issue. My preference is pennzoil platinum euro 5w40 or qs ultimate durability euro 5w40 if you can find it. If you are hell bent on 5w30 then I’d use Castrol 5w30 a3/b4.

You're right. I just mix them lol. But I'm using molygen now... It's good shit. Try it out @engineermike

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[Jobodizo]

Age old oil question. For what it's worth, my old girl will be 9 next month. I've been running the EB for the last 40k miles (36k at install) with 5w-30 Pennzoil Ultra Platinum and a half bottle of Ceratec (got rid of the tic). She's still going strong, but I don't have my foot in it all the time, either.

 

[illtal]

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Age old oil question. For what it's worth, my old girl will be 9 next month. I've been running the EB for the last 40k miles (36k at install) with 5w-30 Pennzoil Ultra Platinum and a half bottle of Ceratec (got rid of the tic). She's still going strong, but I don't have my foot in it all the time, either.

 

[Torinate]

Got the Soler 103mm Throttle Body installed this evening. It's huge, but clears the hood and leaves plenty of room for the PMAS 120mm CAI.

Drove it around gently for about an hour of mixed stop-and-go/highway cruising. No WOT. Good street manners. Lund wants a WOT pull datalog in 4th or 5th tomorrow to see what adjustments, if any, are required. After that, I'll get her dyno'd again next week to see where I'm at. Should be over 700 rwhp by a significant margin.

This was an easy install, real easy. PMAS Black Race filter pictured. The PMAS dry filter and oiled filter are both blue. I got the dry version sitting on the shelf. Will switch to the blue, after I get those dyno numbers. Thanks to all those following. Hope this helps...

Did Lund give you any issue about tuning this? Who was the actual tuner?

Thanks

 

[mikengail]

Did Lund give you any issue about tuning this? Who was the actual tuner?

Thanks

No problem from Lund at all. The tuner actually encountered it. I don't remember his name right now though. I'll check on my desktop when I get home and let you know...

 

[allicedout]

Back again guys, so last year after the install and remote tune from Lund everything was fine. This year I got it out late in the year and have been experiencing the slight hesitation and surging/bucking that I've heard about. It happens around 2200rpm while cruising at a held speed, could be any gear. As soon as I slightly lift off I get that hesitation thing happening. I contacted Lund and they mentioned 02's but then said check for codes. The only code that came up was P05A1.

Now Lund said it should have been tuned out and said it's $150 to do it. Either way I don't think that's the issue. I'm off to Woodward this weekend and will do some datalogs on the highway. The issue isn't anything I can't drive around and wanted to know if it's worth having it looked it by Lund? In addition to that I asked Lund if I installed Long tubes would the cost to retune be the same at $150? They told me anything exhaust related didn't need to be tuned..... Can someone verify this for me. Thanks for your help guys.

 

[Jobodizo]

Hey guys, 40k miles in. Starting to get a slight squeal-type sound after my commute home when it's hot and the car is at temp. Anybody have issues with the bearings on the tensioner or idlers that they can point to as a potential cause? Need to find my stethoscope because I can't narrow down where it's coming from...

 

[BenGTPP]

Anyone know if Edelbrock ever updated their 15-17 tune? I got the stage 2 version with the FR 90mm TB. @Edelbrock Tech

 

[Jobodizo]

Anyone know if Edelbrock ever updated their 15-17 tune? I got the stage 2 version with the FR 90mm TB. @Edelbrock Tech

I don't think you're gonna get a response from them. Last post was 2019. I don't have any ACTUAL information, but I doubt they updated the tune. The cost to have CARB testing done would be prohibitive.

 

[illtal]

Anyone know if Edelbrock ever updated their 15-17 tune? I got the stage 2 version with the FR 90mm TB. @Edelbrock Tech

I would just buy an aftermarket tune....

 

[BenGTPP]

I have a Lund tune also. Was contemplating selling the car with the smog legal tune. Drives descent in all modes except normal has weird light load surging. Random low idle. Definitely would have gone whipple in hindsight.

 

[illtal]

I have a Lund tune also. Was contemplating selling the car with the smog legal tune. Drives descent in all modes except normal has weird light load surging. Random low idle. Definitely would have gone whipple in hindsight.

I never had a problem with the tune from lund, the EB tune had surging all over the place.

The only time I get a "surge" is pulling a hill on cruise, but that's a load change and more throttle will be applied to keep the MPH.

If you don't have a vacuum leak and the pill is still in the bypass line. That would be strange behavior for sure.

 

[engineermike]

The edelbrock TB model in their tune is WAY off, which then relies more on a feedback loop to achieve desired airflow. The feedback loop does well but if errors are large it can have some noticeable delays and surges. They also lower the ipc min torque error limit so it won’t set a code and go into limp due to the atrocious TB model.

 

[Jobodizo]

The edelbrock TB model in their tune is WAY off, which then relies more on a feedback loop to achieve desired airflow. The feedback loop does well but if errors are large it can have some noticeable delays and surges. They also lower the ipc min torque error limit so it won’t set a code and go into limp due to the atrocious TB model.

This lines up with what my tuner told me.

I ended up replacing the pill with a different size orifice. Tried quite a few before I got it feeling perfect, but it's been so long my McMaster history won't bring it up.

 

[Stankietankie]

2018 mustang with stage 2, id105x injenctors, 465 fuel pump. Lund tuned. Lund said the tune looks good. Did data logs. Car slow to start sometime. When it does it the car will fluctuate idle until warm. Sounds like the throttle body isn't opening all the way and is trying to suck air. Checked for vacuum leaks, cleaned air filter. The nos pill is removed. Also it feels like it's defueling or sluggish when in track mode at wot shifting from 2nd to 3rd.

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