Edelbrock E-Force Supercharger...

[1BadAss16CS]

Lol you can run that trap full bolt ons. Not even on e85. Infact we have two trapping faster. Not impressed with that blower

I actually don't care for this blower personally either - I do think its a good option for guys that want a little more but nothing over the top - the price point is good too. Also, the majority of bolt-on guys are not trapping 120s. If you were talking about the top two bolt-on guys from this board running in the 11s with bolt ons, one was running a e85 tune, says it right on his post.

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[Whipple SC]

The calibration should be good and comparable to Whipple and Roush. Edelbrock has spent a lot of money and time developing this product. Hopefully this system produces good power and has improved the flaws of the previous generation systems.

Calibrations are very, very different. Only us and Roush have access to factory tools. Only we have access to making new software, new logic, new tables to truly advance the calibration. I'm sure Edelbrock will get it running very well but there is a different level of what can be done.

 

[mustang_guy]

I actually don't care for this blower personally either - I do think its a good option for guys that want a little more but nothing over the top - the price point is good too. Also, the majority of bolt-on guys are not trapping 120s. If you were talking about the top two bolt-on guys from this board running in the 11s with bolt ons, one was running a e85 tune, says it right on his post.

The majority of people here cant drag race very well either. Youre right rbs500 is on e85. Im thinking that he just got the new flex fuel map instead of just the sole e85 tune.

 

[Concrete GT]

Being that it's "new" for this year might put me off a little, although I suppose every brand had to tweak their design for the 15-16 Coyote's?
It would be a candidate based on the following
It requires no grinding
It lets you keep the STB and K brace
If the cal was good for a daily driver
The finish actually looks N/A at first glace
Warranty was included at a competitive price
Heat soaking issues resolved at least in the case of a daily driver. I'm not worried about heat issues involved with drag strip or multiple dyno runs....
Pushes RWH and torque above 500 without having to run the tach above 7000RPM....
Won't require headers or an extensive list of bolt on mods to support it's performance increasing it's "true" cost
Servicing support is readily available.
I might have missed something, feel free to chime in if I did.

 

[Department Of Boost]

When the topic is superchargers, nobody is talking about the latest widget, this is one single device. This blower has been around for some time already.

Supercharging isn't rocket science. Edelbrock has been in the intake business for years - I also think they have put some R&D into their product before it's release.

You mentioned " That blower will have IAT issues and will pull timing quite a bit." - Just wondering where this info is coming from? Speculation or have you data logged this for fact??

I think this will be a good blower setup for guys that want a mild setup while retaining the strut tower brace.

Here is this blower moving a 2012 5.0 down the 1/4:

All I can do is lead the horses to the water. I can't make them drink.

 

[Department Of Boost]

Being that it's "new" for this year might put me off a little, although I suppose every brand had to tweak their design for the 15-16 Coyote's?
It would be a candidate based on the following
It requires no grinding
It lets you keep the STB and K brace
If the cal was good for a daily driver
The finish actually looks N/A at first glace
Warranty was included at a competitive price
Heat soaking issues resolved at least in the case of a daily driver. I'm not worried about heat issues involved with drag strip or multiple dyno runs....
Pushes RWH and torque above 500 without having to run the tach above 7000RPM....
Won't require headers or an extensive list of bolt on mods to support it's performance increasing it's "true" cost
Servicing support is readily available.
I might have missed something, feel free to chime in if I did.

Heat soak is its worst on the street. It's pretty easy to keep in check at the drag strip and super easy on the dyno.

 

[MyFirst5.0]

anyone find it funny guys are going to drop 6-10k on a blower and concerned about a front strut brace that costs $200 and doesn't do much?

anyway, great info in here, sub'd

 

[BG]

anyone find it funny guys are going to drop 6-10k on a blower and concerned about a front strut brace that costs $200 and doesn't do much?

anyway, great info in here, sub'd

Yeah, aren't those braces more for racing on a course? Where PD superchargers supposedly are not suited for anyway.

 

[nicktechla]

anyone find it funny guys are going to drop 6-10k on a blower and concerned about a front strut brace that costs $200 and doesn't do much?

anyway, great info in here, sub'd

i was thinking the same thing, haha

 

[Concrete GT]

anyone find it funny guys are going to drop 6-10k on a blower and concerned about a front strut brace that costs $200 and doesn't do much?

anyway, great info in here, sub'd

I will have over 60K invested in this car when it's finished so I'm not worried about $200....What I would like though is for it to not be "frankensteined" by hacking, cutting or grinding of any of it's original parts and besides it's a vert...it's not gonna be any kind of track car that would benefit from the brace anyway.

 

[Department Of Boost]

I will have over 60K invested in this car when it's finished so I'm not worried about $200....What I would like though is for it to not be "frankensteined" by hacking, cutting or grinding of any of it's original parts and besides it's a vert...it's not gonna be any kind of track car that would benefit from the brace anyway.

You're correct. The STB is a lot more effective on the vert than the coupe. I would ditch the STB on a coupe without a second thought. I don't even run them on road race cars. The verts get "floppy" without them though.

 

[Evolvd]

anyone find it funny guys are going to drop 6-10k on a blower and concerned about a front strut brace that costs $200 and doesn't do much?

Here's the gist though...some of us build our cars the way WE want to, not the way anyone else wants us to. So feel free to remove whatever parts you deem unnecessary and enjoy. I won't insinuate that I know what's better for your car so long as you will provide the same courtesy to me or others.

 

[ptoemmes]

I compliment all for an, at times, spirited, but always respectful back-n-forth and please keep it up especially when the E-Force kit is released with numbers and from the early adopters (of which I may or may not be one).

I've said it before, but bless all of you youngsters (I am 65, wife 62) who want to drive a streetable FI car to the strip and run 9s (or better) and drive it home, to-from work, etc. I am behind you all the way and you are welcome to crush me on the street :cheers:

But that's not me - anymore - the 9s strip part.

From this discussion and others, keeping the STB on my 2016 PP 6sp vert is a much lower priority and will not be the ultimate deciding factor. But it will be a PD blower.

BTW - if it isn't obvious the Eaton TVS 2300 is roots and not twin screw.

Top priority for me is part throttle increase in power (torque mostly) over stock.

2 or 3 is cost, including add on for a warranty, is key - to me - too. Edelbrocks is included, but you can bet NOT FREE just like a new car warranty is NOT FREE. The cost is in there. Yes, I realize the start date thing ;)

Unclear what the warranty options/cost are from Whipple, but need to find out.

2 or 3 is blower noise - I have a wife.

Boy, don't get me started on what has transpired since I put on the FlowMaster Street cat back, which I love, (she was bummed the stock exhaust sounder wimpy so I acted), but had to tone it down a tad with insulation. Maybe two Mustangs are better than one. But I digress...

I will of course be attentive to what comes back about IATs (on the street) on the E-Force.

My go to install shop is Steeda Pompano and I have asked them to evaluate the new E-Force unit and maybe become an Edelbrock vendor/installer. They are, of course, a Whipple certified installer too (primarily) and I am impressed by all the features Dustin has talked about. The features, if not the noise, will certainly work for me.

Sorry, I'm old(er)(ish) :shrug:

Pete

PS
My daughter and son-in-law have a 2016 Audi S7 and he came within a whisker of an RS7, but second kid is on the way. I realize fruit and vegetables, but a tad rich for Grandpa's blood.

 

[mikeyjobu]

Here's the gist though...some of us build our cars the way WE want to, not the way anyone else wants us to. So feel free to remove whatever parts you deem unnecessary and enjoy. I won't insinuate that I know what's better for your car so long as you will provide the same courtesy to me or others.

Moreover, many of these cars are going to be on the street -- on the street you can benefit from both the blower, and the bracing: You'll not always be going in a straight line, and you can still find public roads where you can build up some lateral g, and you won't be heat soaking the car going around a circuit multiple times -- I think of them something akin to hill-climb cars.

 

[lurker]

Moreover, many of these cars are going to be on the street -- on the street you can benefit from both the blower, and the bracing: You'll not always be going in a straight line, and you can still find public roads where you can build up some lateral g, and you won't be heat soaking the car going around a circuit multiple times -- I think of them something akin to hill-climb cars.

If there is any proclivity for heat soak, you will be heat soaking the car if you live in the south and daily drive. 100% guaranteed. Stop and go traffic in high heat is far worse for temps than any situation where air is flowing, including racing.

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