Edelbrock 2650 bolt hole alignment

[socketman]

You can replace the runners on that side if it’s warped .
When I sold and shipped my 2.3 , it was banged up by the time they delivered it and the bolt hole one one side had snapped off .

I don’t blame buyer but of course he refused it so it was shipped back to me .

Edelbrock sent me another runner to replace the one with the broken bolt hole and it’s as good now (I hope )

That truly sux, god damn freight companies they are the worst and they hate the big heavy shit and i think they rough it up out of spite. Thanks for the reply this is probly the route i will go , will look at the runners and possibly enlarge thier holes slightly. I have to find a way to workout belt alignment as well, possibly with a small tramel. I am a working stiff so by the days end i dont want to do much so it will wait for the weekend. I will loosen the runners and see if i can move things around a bit, i really would not like to drill since the holes are already much larger than the shank of the bolt. Either way i will keep you updated. Of course Edelbrock finally calls me and i broke my phone this afternoon so we are playing phone tag ATM.

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[olaosunt]

It comes off as a unit .

 

[socketman]

It comes off as a unit .

yup and i hope to move it slighly to improve the alignment.

 

[socketman]

So after talking to Edelbrock they gave me 3 options . 1: drill the holes larger, if i go any bigger the bolt heads will probably go right through so that's out. 2. I can send the blower back 3500 miles all while they are in the middle of a move aparently and wait to see what the engineering department comes up with. Bare in mind it was 800 american to ship this to me and the logistics were horrible given its weight. 3. The option i have chosen, which is for them to send me some new runners and they are less than confident that will help.

In all honesty they really should send a new blower, i mean i dont need to modify any parts i install on customers cars daily. Oh the rotor doesnt fit ,ok we will just grind that center hole good to go. I have been waiting over a week for my tune, now radio silence. I regret going with Edelbrock with all my heart.If i had more money i would sell it off and get a VMP.

 

[Sighlense]

So after talking to Edelbrock they gave me 3 options . 1: drill the holes larger, if i go any bigger the bolt heads will probably go right through so that's out. 2. I can send the blower back 3500 miles all while they are in the middle of a move aparently and wait to see what the engineering department comes up with. Bare in mind it was 800 american to ship this to me and the logistics were horrible given its weight. 3. The option i have chosen, which is for them to send me some new runners and they are less than confident that will help.

In all honesty they really should send a new blower, i mean i dont need to modify any parts i install on customers cars daily. Oh the rotor doesnt fit ,ok we will just grind that center hole good to go. I have been waiting over a week for my tune, now radio silence. I regret going with Edelbrock with all my heart.If i had more money i would sell it off and get a VMP.

Send it back for a new one, and chalk it up to bad luck. Not much else you can do. Nobody would ship you out a new one without seeing the damaged product first.

 

[socketman]

Send it back for a new one, and chalk it up to bad luck. Not much else you can do. Nobody would ship you out a new one without seeing the damaged product first.

Well that offer is not even on the table they want me to send it in and re engineer it. If i do that my car is shanghied for god knows how long. Talking to tech support he made it sound like it could be months which is bullshit, i paid my money in good faith that i would get a good product. You can play devils advocate all you want but if this was happening to you , you would be pissed off too. So if you have nothing worth saying say nothing at all.

 

[Sighlense]

Well that offer is not even on the table they want me to send it in and re engineer it. If i do that my car is shanghied for god knows how long. Talking to tech support he made it sound like it could be months which is bullshit, i paid my money in good faith that i would get a good product. You can play devils advocate all you want but if this was happening to you , you would be pissed off too. So if you have nothing worth saying say nothing at all.

Whew...i was just trying to be helpful. Not being an option IS BS. Understand your pain dude, but whatever. Piss away....and GL to you.

 

[Desert Dog]

I had the same issue and just drilled the holes slightly larger. There is plenty of material around the bolt holes. If you look at the Factory intake the bolt holes are Huge, and you can move the intake Bolts around. Edelbrock should have made these larger from the start. Just make sure all bolts are stared by hand, those fine thread, low pitch bolts are easy to cross thread.

 

[GreenS550]

I had the same issue and just drilled the holes slightly larger. There is plenty of material around the bolt holes. If you look at the Factory intake the bolt holes are Huge, and you can move the intake Bolts around. Edelbrock should have made these larger from the start. Just make sure all bolts are stared by hand, those fine thread, low pitch bolts are easy to cross thread.

This is true. The OEM intake has holes somewhat larger than the bolts. Might be OK, but...

It seems as though once through the process of design, etc. They create castings and jigs to do the machining. That has to be spot on. So, to make the holes in the wrong place, wrong diameter, etc means something is off. If the blower is off center even a tiny bit, I would think that the belt alignment could (not sure here) be an issue. There may be enough of a fudge factor considering all the pulleys that are involved.

Stage 2 kit is not cheap. I would tell them you want a complete refund. Send a pickup tag and you will rebox it. If you paid by CC in the last 60 or 90 days, contact your cc company FIRST to make sure you can have it removed. Either way I would tell Edelbrock that you are done with them.

I have been down a somewhat similar road with a SC kit which I cannot discuss because of a settlement I reached (NOT Edelbrock). Needless to say the bad press this company experienced caused many job cancellations and serious problems. You have leverage. You are a customer that bought in good faith. The options Edelbrock gave you are not the only ones you have. You are the customer and can make it difficult for them if they do not satisfy you fairly. I think the options they gave you are NOT reasonable. It's their problem they did not make it correctly, not yours.

This is an inside to their business attitude. It needs to change. I was just ready to pull the trigger on an Edelbrock but now I will not. If they didn't get this part right, what about the very precise internals?

 

[GreenS550]

Then you have the issue of port alignment. This should be precise. When I installed the Whipple on my Bullitt, it was very precise. Perfect alignment. These are precise machined mated surfaces, not he old casted intakes with a thick gasket between them for fudge factors.

I can still remember all the advice I received on my '15 from members here and did not take it. It was a mistake. Doesn't mean I'm right here. Just saying.

Then the comment that Edelbrock isn't sure the new runners will fit. What's that about?

Edelbrock. Refund Op's money and send a return tag. Let him buy some other blower. Re-engineer the parts and then put them back for sale and keep your reputation.

 

[socketman]

Believe me fella's , the last thing i expected was a fitment issue from a company that prides themselves in the fact they do all their own casting and machining. And the machining is spot on for quality , i mean i had this just sitting on my kitchen table for months it was impressive. So when i finally got to where it was time to put it on i was blown away that something as simple as 10 bolts could be so frustrating. In retrospect i wish i had started this project sooner so i had more time to deal with the issue. We get 7 months of winter and we are closing in on that ending soon and i really dont want my car to be down and out when the warm weather arrives. I am not pissed so much as frustrated and given what others are now saying i am not the first person with this issue . As for the runners , its not whether they will fit but if they will fix the issue. Today i am going to do some more investigating and get an idea about the port size of the blower vs the heads and see how the alignment will work out if i massage the runner holes.

The worst of this is i was told to contact Tony Avina at Edelbrock to resolve this. after 10 days he called me back and i missed his call and he left a message to call him the next day. I call him and he was too busy to take my call so i had to wait while the tech support guy ran back and forth to his office. Then they wanted me to provide a US address to ship the runners to because they dont ship Canada.I said what if i sent the blower back for warranty how would they get it back to me and the guy said oh we would work something out for that and i said so work something out for the runners.They been fighting me the whole way on this process. I am not the bad guy here , i just ran into an issue and want some help. Sorry for the long rant.

 

[Bald Menace]

Believe me fella's , the last thing i expected was a fitment issue from a company that prides themselves in the fact they do all their own casting and machining

in other areas of the automotive aftermarket Edelbrock is known for improperly located holes and crappy machine work. your issues don't surprise me at all.

 

[socketman]

in other areas of the automotive aftermarket Edelbrock is known for improperly located holes and crappy machine work. your issues don't surprise me at all.

Yeah back in the day intakes didnt fit all tht well because of many reasons, core shift of the block , bad deck height etc. But with 3d modeling this should be a thing of the past. If they can make headers fit in these cars this should be a no brainer imho. My oldest son was commenting that their heads are not the best from what he has read online, im like wtf why did you not say something before i bought this.

 

[socketman]

So the blower is now on but the frustration just doesn't end there. The little clips the position the fuel injectors dont seem to be compatible with the DW injectors. Took forever to get the rails to bolt up to the SC. My hands are what i consider average size and it was all i could do to get me fat fingers in turn the bolts. Next the tuner will not flash a tune, i actually got weekend support from SCT and the guy spent about 3 hrs this afternoon with me trying to get it to work. Kudo's to SCT for their support. We are going to go back at it tomorrow with Team Viewer and see if he can do something with the X4. I found some threads where guys were having the same issue and had to get a new Handheld sent to them ,while others had to send their computer in which i doubt i will have to do since my car will start, just a little fat. I am glad im doing a winter project with no end to winter in sight lol. Anyone else experienced issues with their SCT X4 here.

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