Edelbrock 2300 TVS limits

[ckendri]

so you like the vmp tune more than PBD?

No, I actually like them the equally. I have had very good response from PBD, and they helped me out of a bind with a quick tune at one point. I only have different tunes for the sake of comparison. I’m currently running a PBD tune, but I’m about to buy an updated tune for my setup from VMP.

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[olaosunt]

Building a high compression ratio motor (12.1) and I am thinking it would be perfect with this .

I will not have to run high boost numbers to make power so may not even need the 8 rib set up .

My old 3.2 KB/8 rib may be getting “tired”and I am not sure I want to use the ATI damper required on the new motor. It works /fits perfectly on the crank of the current motor but taking it off and putting it on the crank of the new motor scares me .

Current motor in car is running but lifting heads so it is coming out to be refreshed . If I get the eddy for the new motor , then I can put the KB back on the refreshed motor for use later or try to sell engine/blower as a package .

 

[SoCalTim]

Building a high compression ratio motor (12.1) and I am thinking it would be perfect with this .

I will not have to run high boost numbers to make power so may not even need the 8 rib set up .

My old 3.2 KB/8 rib may be getting “tired”and I am not sure I want to use the ATI damper required on the new motor. It works /fits perfectly on the crank off the current motor but taking it off and putting it on the crank of the new motor scares me .

Current motor in car is running but lifting heads so it is coming out to be refreshed . If I get the eddy for the new motor , then I can put the KB back on the refreshed motor for use later or try to sell engine/blower as a package .

You've owned Whipple, Hellion and KB on your S550's ... which set up do you like the best, and why?

 

[olaosunt]

So far the Hellion has been the fastest and made the most power but any of the set ups can make enough power to break even a built/sleeved motor .... ask me how I know . Lol.

The KB feels a little rough around the edges and when I open my hood it looks like something out of MAD MAX. Having to use the stiffer motor mounts to lower the motor so it fits under the hood also added a lot more NVH. It’s not a torque monster like my old TVS on my 12 was but it’s still fun to drive on the street with the Magnum xL . Been 10.0@ 145-148 when I had the lazy 3.31 rear end . It should be an easy 9 second car if I can get traction now that I have 4.10’s in the rear.

It made almost 1000 whp when I tried to turn up the boost by dropping from a 3.5 to a 3.25 pulley(19-21 psi ) but that’s also when it first started lifting the heads after I replaced a head gasket .
Car is going to be for sale this year hopefully after I make a 9 second pass . It may come with the old motor /KB or new motor /Eddy -pulled the trigger as the low price is insane !

 

[SoCalTim]

@olaosunt

You picked up an Edelbrock 2300 kit too? Nice!

 

[olaosunt]

yeah-Got an insane deal I could not pass up at just a " little more " than the cost of a fuel system .

I am "out" after this year so want to have tried everything(no interest in the centrifugals) before I hang up my driving gloves lol.

Out of all the PD blowers I have had the 2.3 Roush TVS on my 12 and the TVS swap on my 11 GT 500 were the most fun especially with a manual . I had a snake bite snout on the Roush and VMP 8 rib set up and was able to go 9.7 when I did an auto swap but that killed the fun on the street.
The 11 GT500 was probably the most fun but I think that was probably because of all the torque it made with the 5.4. It was fun on the street but a disaster at the strip due to the 1-2 grind. Still miss the car and wish I never sold it although I made out quite well when I did
I bought for $42 K with 3000 miles and sold for $40K@21000 miles/less than $5 k invested in blower swap/long tubes/suspension/drive shaft ,3 years later .

 

[jfccac]

my 'package' is scheduled for delivery 4/26. I'm excited to see what this kit is all about.

 

[Torinate]

Nice!!

I haven’t got a date yet...

Hopefully soon after that!!

 

[ForYourOwnGood]

I just picked up this kit as well, was going to pass but I'm a terrible impulse buyer and here we are. I got mine on ebay.

EDIT: turns out the ebay seller was the guy Eric from earlier in the thread anyways.

 

[BlownGP]

Old thread but hope you guys are still around.
@Torinate

Found a used 2300 kit for a good price. 4 years old. Waiting on pics to see what all comes with it.
Said he went 6.2 in 1/8th. Just wants to go faster.

Like I most of you guys that posted I am not looking to break any records plus deciding between the 2300 vs 2650. Just want a 600-700 HP fun street car. Can use e85 if I have too. But really don't want to break axles or drive shafts.

I have done research and was looking at picking up a Roush 2.3 also. They can make power and I know they can produce some heat, but doesn't the Edelbrock have a way better intercooler?

What TB or intake am I able to upgrade on the Edelbrock?

Thanks

 

[HKusp]

If the 2300 you are looking at is a Roush, the issue with them is it's a lot of work to mitigate the heat that it makes. You need a bigger heat exchanger and pump minimum. If it's the Edelbrock they are better with the heat, but you can never have too much heat exchanger, within reason. VMP makes a nice triple pass.

 

[BlownGP]

It's a Edelbrock 2300.
I do like how it has the whipple, odin intercooler brick. That is a great design.

Yes, I seen the VMP HE. Looks pretty robust.

 

[Grimreaper]

Phenolic spacers is all that's really needed for pump gas boost levels. With the low boost and higher compression it's not hard to keep iats in check even with the dinky roush pump and H/E. Best single mod for iat2.

A larger pump and H/e help especially in combo with spacers. The extra volume adds a very large buffer. Have had iat2 drop or remain below iat at idle. Took another 5 to 10 degrees off of cruise and wot temps. Adds stability to iat2 temps.

2.3 rotor pack is more than capable of breaking a stock engine if wanted. Highly recommend for a fun street car. Traction and tires the real limiters..

 

[BlownGP]

Phenolic spacers is all that's really needed for pump gas boost levels. With the low boost and higher compression it's not hard to keep iats in check even with the dinky roush pump and H/E. Best single mod for iat2.

A larger pump and H/e help especially in combo with spacers. The extra volume adds a very large buffer. Have had iat2 drop or remain below iat at idle. Took another 5 to 10 degrees off of cruise and wot temps. Adds stability to iat2 temps.

2.3 rotor pack is more than capable of breaking a stock engine if wanted. Highly recommend for a fun street car. Traction and tires the real limiters..

Thanks for the help guys.

I think I might pass on the blower. This used Edelbrock does have about 40K on it and the guy drag raced with it. Probably to the limit because he's selling and going to twin turbos.

I was talking to the owner of Jokerz performance today who ports and rebuild blowers. He said the Edelbrock 2300 is tricky to rebuild because for one, the whole blower is like one piece cast together and could crack during shipping. He also said if this guy was drag racing hard, the rotors are probably spent and you can't replace them. The Edelbrock 2650 is a little better designed and easier to work with.

So, guess will be on the look out for a Roush 2.3 or VMP of some sort.

 

[HKusp]

I had a VMP Gen2R on my GT500 and I absolutely loved it. Try to find one.

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