Ecoboost Engine Blown?

[Tune+]

I have posted about the JMS boostMAX and other boxes similar to it. Here is a post I made in another thread.

"You want to stay away from any of the JMS stuff, or any of the modules out there that raise boost without any tuning changes. The factory ecu is setup monitor boost pre (TIP) and post throttle (MAP). There are limits set for both, so when the boost is raised and the stock ecu is not flashed (tuned) to adjust these limits the throttle closes to block the boost form entering the engine.

When the throttle is closed you lose a lot of "communication" between other tables. One of the biggest ones is commanded EQ. It loses part of it's calculations and the fueling can get wonky during throttle closures.

This is why cars tend to knock VERY hard when the throttle is closed. Fueling, and restriction in the system (throttle body) which reduces the engines VE.

Go with an Accessport, and drop me a line for a proper tune!

Cheers,
Adam"

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[Asharus]

ouch, sorry to hear about your situation

 

[richard0ne]

I have posted about the JMS boostMAX and other boxes similar to it. Here is a post I made in another thread.

"You want to stay away from any of the JMS stuff, or any of the modules out there that raise boost without any tuning changes. The factory ecu is setup monitor boost pre (TIP) and post throttle (MAP). There are limits set for both, so when the boost is raised and the stock ecu is not flashed (tuned) to adjust these limits the throttle closes to block the boost form entering the engine.

When the throttle is closed you lose a lot of "communication" between other tables. One of the biggest ones is commanded EQ. It loses part of it's calculations and the fueling can get wonky during throttle closures.

This is why cars tend to knock VERY hard when the throttle is closed. Fueling, and restriction in the system (throttle body) which reduces the engines VE.

Go with an Accessport, and drop me a line for a proper tune!

Cheers,
Adam"

This is very true, good looking by chiming in Adam. Throughout my reading and research, I haven't ran into anyone that had major engine failure with a proper tune from a reliable tuner. I have Unleashed tuned by Torrie and have no problems, no oil leaks, etc. I'm sure Adam have tuned many many cars and I haven't heard engines blowing up from his tune.

The JMS raising boost without proper tuning is most likely the culprit. Sorry to hear about your situation, keep us updated.

Also yes, if you can refinance an extra 5k for a new engine on your loan that would be awesome.

 

[Glenn G]

Op You can get a Built shortblock from MAP for like 3 k without the core exchange,
If you are lucky the head will be ok, but if not the cams gears and most of the valves, buckets etc will be too.
I bet you can be on a built engine for less than a stock one.

 

[Coyotestang13]

Sorry to hear about your car Matrix. Finding the cause of failure will tell who is at fault here I'd make Ford prove it. Great reason why I don't mod my cars when new. Once the warranty is up I know it was built well so a well designed mod should cause no problems. I'm going with the Ford Racing tune til I pay off my car and get a twin turbo kit.

 

[EcoSwag1990]

Modded way too soon and with a list of crappy mods. I don't think you'll be getting any mercy from ford unfortunately. I agree with Glenn though, I would go ahead and get the built short block for $3k if everything else is good and then go with a reputable tuner.

 

[347CobraII]

Want support by what saying you was screwed and agree with you 100%. Not going to happen sorry but you gave Ford the reasons to deny warranty. In the end with or without support still doesn't get the car fixed does it

 

[suprmario96]

off topic but I once had an issue with my transmission on a brand new Ser Spec-v I had bought and took off a nitrous system, an exhaust and intake all on the side of the road, but got it fixed under warranty. Never want to show off mods at a dealer.

 

[Glenn G]

off topic but I once had an issue with my transmission on a brand new Ser Spec-v I had bought and took off a nitrous system, an exhaust and intake all on the side of the road, but got it fixed under warranty. Never want to show off mods at a dealer.

Yes this, if anything were to happen to my car, I would flash the ecu back to stock as I was waiting for the towtruck and cycle the start button untll the battery died, it would not be getting towed (By my breakdown covearge) not to the dealer but rather the hobby auto shop where I do my work on it. There the intake and down-pipe+exhaust would come off and I would put the stock back on. I am not bothering with the catch can or intercooler as there is no way either of those can be faulted for an engine failure (MY map IC is so stealth anyways) Only then would I have it towed the 1000 yards or so to the local dealer for warranty work.

 

[Asharus]

ah i remember the modded wrx life. couldnt sleep at night knowing my powertrain warranty is gone and that my ringlands or rod bearings may let go at any moment.

 

[Ultrakla$$ic]

I have posted about the JMS boostMAX and other boxes similar to it. Here is a post I made in another thread.

"You want to stay away from any of the JMS stuff, or any of the modules out there that raise boost without any tuning changes. The factory ecu is setup monitor boost pre (TIP) and post throttle (MAP). There are limits set for both, so when the boost is raised and the stock ecu is not flashed (tuned) to adjust these limits the throttle closes to block the boost form entering the engine.

When the throttle is closed you lose a lot of "communication" between other tables. One of the biggest ones is commanded EQ. It loses part of it's calculations and the fueling can get wonky during throttle closures.

This is why cars tend to knock VERY hard when the throttle is closed. Fueling, and restriction in the system (throttle body) which reduces the engines VE.

Go with an Accessport, and drop me a line for a proper tune!

Cheers,
Adam"

I cringe when I read threads in here about guys putting these trinkets on their expensive Mustangs for the dumbest reasons and without knowing the ill effects they can cause. The experienced guys tell the ones questioning whether to buy/use one or not to GET A TUNE vs. putting this crap on your car and they don't listen and buy this junk anyways..................INTERWEBZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.

Thanks for the reply Adam!:cheers:

 

[richard0ne]

Yes this, if anything were to happen to my car, I would flash the ecu back to stock as I was waiting for the towtruck and cycle the start button untll the battery died, it would not be getting towed (By my breakdown covearge) not to the dealer but rather the hobby auto shop where I do my work on it. There the intake and down-pipe+exhaust would come off and I would put the stock back on. I am not bothering with the catch can or intercooler as there is no way either of those can be faulted for an engine failure (MY map IC is so stealth anyways) Only then would I have it towed the 1000 yards or so to the local dealer for warranty work.

Recycling the start button after flashing back to stock, has it been proven to eliminate the flash counts?

 

[Rough Hollow Man]

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[MCJUNKMAN]

Yes this, if anything were to happen to my car, I would flash the ecu back to stock as I was waiting for the towtruck and cycle the start button untll the battery died, it would not be getting towed (By my breakdown covearge) not to the dealer but rather the hobby auto shop where I do my work on it. There the intake and down-pipe+exhaust would come off and I would put the stock back on. I am not bothering with the catch can or intercooler as there is no way either of those can be faulted for an engine failure (MY map IC is so stealth anyways) Only then would I have it towed the 1000 yards or so to the local dealer for warranty work.

No offense man but I don't get why people try to cheat the system its just kinda dishonest and crappy. If you changed your tune, downpipe, IC etc you shouldn't be playing it off under warranty like its Ford's fault. They designed the car the way they did and put the warranty on it that way you don't need to cheat them out of money. I know they are a big faceless company but at the end of the day it is taking money out of the pockets of the people that work there.

 

[EcoSwag1990]

No offense man but I don't get why people try to cheat the system its just kinda dishonest and crappy. If you changed your tune, downpipe, IC etc you shouldn't be playing it off under warranty like its Ford's fault. They designed the car the way they did and put the warranty on it that way you don't need to cheat them out of money. I know they are a big faceless company but at the end of the day it is taking money out of the pockets of the people that work there.

Just because a car has been modified does not mean that it developed a problem as the result of the modification. I see nothing wrong with returning to stock and letting ford determine the problem and cause. It may very well have been the result of a common defect in some cases but ford would end up blaming you. It's a bit melodramatic to say you're taking money out of the pockets of ppl who work there. The associated warranty costs resulting from modified cars is literally negligible on their balance sheet

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