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[MustangEcoboosted]

It's funny seeing all the 4-banger V8 wannabes thinking 12's are fast.:lol:

Lets see your time slips then high speed.

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[Rambl3r]

It's funny seeing all the 4-banger V8 wannabes thinking 12's are fast.:lol:

You've been wanting a scat pack for the longest. They run 12's :shrug:

 

[jcart953]

maybe instead of arguing v8 vs turbo 4 we should all grieve for the loss of our 6 cyl bros in 2018..

Yeah 2 bad they didn't make like a special edition V6 to make it go out in a bang or something.

 

[TheLion]

This thread is interesting for me. I have been planning to do a Pro Cal tune in the spring since my car will be under warranty for a few years and then switch to something aggressive after the warranty is up. I had never considered that an aftermarket tune could be affected by weather. It gets very, very cold in Colorado. This will make me rethink that and maybe just stay with the Pro Cal tune.

Also....what's with the GT guys bashing EB owners? Not everyone wants or needs a V8.
I used to have a GT. I did everything you could to that engine short of FI. Cams, heads, full exhaust, suspension, trans work, etc... Then, I swapped out the SOHC 4.6 for an '03 Mach 1 crate motor. Drove it like that for years. Fun car...
I have been down the NA V8 route, and it's fun, but now I drive an EB. Why? Because it fits my needs...and it's a fun street car.

Agreed, a tuned 2.3L EB is about on par with a stock GT PP or lightly modded one (CAI, Exhaust), but it's lighter (handles notably better if you've driven the two side by side), gets way better fuel economy and is around $5,000 cheaper after basic engine mods.

Remember just pre-2011, GT's only ran mid 13's stock...even a stock EB is close to a pre-2011 GT (factory spec was 13.7 on the quarter mile). The next tier down, the V6 was abysmally slow for a dedicated sports car...That's impressive if you ask me, couple that with the massively improved track capabilities of the S550 chassis and it's a great value for a fun, fast and affordable street / strip / autocross car. Even higher tier brands like infinity's G35 Coupe barely ran a 13.9...which is a fairly expensive car and gets V8 like fuel mileage.

Not sure why we keep comparing the 2.3L I4 to a 5.0L V8 though, they have different purposes and goals, attributes. They are different cars, different fuel costs (yearly), maintenance etc. and at very different price points, just like the GT350 is a league ahead of the regular 5.0. How much do you want to pay? That's really the question.

There's no doubt the fastest 1/4 mile cars are FI V8's, some of the super stangs are pushing 2,500 HP (Livernois has one if I'm not mistaken) and run 6 second 1/4 miles...if we compare you tune 11 second NA V8 to that, it's weak sauce at best ;) Heck I have a buddy that had a 90's AWD talon, heavily modded that ran 11.8...now I'm sure the reliability and drivability of that car was not so great, but it was fast that's for sure, especially given the technology and car of that time.

I think a 12 second EB mustang is pretty darn fast compared to what was available at this PRICE POINT just 3 years ago...there nothing with the combination of cost, handling, looks and fuel economy anywhere near what the S550 EB is.

Currently the only competitor that comes close to the fuel economy and cost is the WRX and Golf-R (Camaro V6 doesn't have much to gain without FI, no where near what an EB can do and the Turbo Camaro has a smaller 2.0L engine and was intended as the bottom tier unlike the 2.3L EB, which was a mid tier), but neither of those seem to have the same mod potential on the stock block (some of the more heavily tuned and bolt on modded WRX STI's are running mid 12's, that's a 40k car that only gets 23 mph...). There are a slew of failed 2015 and 2016 WRX's, both stock and tuned (especially tuned with Cobb Stage 3's) if you go out and search. Not many failed EB stangs, a few, but so far all are also pre-5/15 builds and most of them were tuned.

 

[2015 Silver GT]

Lets see your time slips then high speed.

They're posted in the drag racing forum for all to see.

You've been wanting a scat pack for the longest. They run 12's :shrug:

I own a Scat Pack now and you're correct stock it only runs low 12's.

 

[metalhead79]

Those old V6's were so bad....not like the SOHC 4.6L V8 was great - 215hp/285lb ft torque factory stock in my 97 GT. Ran 15 somethings from the factory. Now if you're not running low 12's from the factory you're 'slow'.
I never dyno'd her before the Mach 1 motor swap, but the car with Mach 1 motor with just catback and intake put down 300hp/330lb ft at sea level. Butt dyno told me the maxed out SOHC was close to the DOHC Mach 1 motor.

The only thing I miss with the EB is the roar of the V8. Nothing quite sounds like a V8 with racing cams and longtube headers....

 

[GJarrett]

Also....what's with the GT guys bashing EB owners?

It's a maturity issue. Once you allow for understanding that, there's no reason to take offense.

 

[Turbong]

It's a maturity issue. Once you allow for understanding that, there's no reason to take offense.

That's very true from what I have seen and of course this is not for all people, but a lot of big motor crowd they are not the brightest people, they don't understand compromises, the benefits or cons, balance, weight, costs and or simply don't care. They are in absolute or nothing, granted a lot of them are young kids and immature barely know a foot from the other.Here is a fact for ya,you could always spend more, you could always go higher, you compromise because you would all be driving V12, turbocharged cars why settle for a puny V8? Why didn't you get at least a Shelby GT350? Because reality kicks in and you realize you would not be driving a Mustang if you were a millionaire. Nothing wrong with any number of cylinders in a motor as long as it makes sense to you, cause in the end a basic silent electric car will own you.

 

[gotboost?]

Doesn't care how many 5.0's pass me with attitude, however I admit when I see 428i's or Audi 2.0T's........

 

[DB23]

I'm running Unleashed 93 custom tune. I just this week switched from my summer tune to my winter tune now that high temps have dropped into the 40s here in NJ. So Torrie does account for this and there's info on the winter tune in the Unleashed thread in this forum.

 

[jtmat]

maybe instead of arguing v8 vs turbo 4 we should all grieve for the loss of our 6 cyl bros in 2018..

Or just not feeding the troll. ;)

Riding around in that damn gas guzzler... with all that noise. He should be ashamed of himself.

 

[metalhead79]

Doesn't care how many 5.0's pass me with attitude, however I admit when I see 428i's or Audi 2.0T's........

428i is such an awesome car. I considered one, but finding a manual was difficult and it wasn't a Mustang.

 

[LightningBlue17]

For me the EB is perfect. Mine is a DD, and the better gas mileage, lower insurance and lighter weight make for a great ride. Add on the tune and mods I did, and I have a sleeper that makes more torque than a stock NA V8.

And my next mod will allow me to upgrade the tune and add even more horsepower. All for a lot less than a GT.

GT and EB - different flavors of a great car! Peace out.

 

[TheLion]

I'm running Unleashed 93 custom tune. I just this week switched from my summer tune to my winter tune now that high temps have dropped into the 40s here in NJ. So Torrie does account for this and there's info on the winter tune in the Unleashed thread in this forum.

Which is why I pointed to user error and suggested Unleashed probably would have told his customer to make adjustments or come in for re-tuning in cold weather. With that methodology it's necessary.

However, OE type of tuning accounts for weather, altitude and humidity in a way its safe to use all year around in 4-season states. You won't make as much power as a car specific shop tune for that specific environment, but you also don't have the same risks involved due to user error (aka not knowing he needed to switch to a winter tune or run higher octane) or even un-tested conditions.

From a risk standpoint, I think tuning so specific you need to re-flash for temperature is not very appropriate for a daily driver street car, more so for a weekend toy you compete with. That way if something happens you have another vehicle to fall back on. There's pros and cons to all the various methods, but understanding them thoroughly goes a long way to preventing these types of failures.

 

[gotboost?]

428i is such an awesome car. I considered one, but finding a manual was difficult and it wasn't a Mustang.

See, that's my view. I believe Ford's natural target was the 428 or Audi A5. Those cars are easily 15-20K more than the EB. I believe the EB is so much more better looking and performance wise not sure if the Germans are worth the extra $$$.

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