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Hey guys,

We've discussed our catch can system, and posted several teaser images in a variety of threads here on the forum. We are now getting a bit closer to the completion of this project. We thought it would be a great idea to show you guys the development process that we take to design our direct fit catch can setups. Follow the progress on our blog, or posted in this thread below. Additionally, our testing will confirm/deny any claims regarding the need or effectiveness of installing a catch can on your Mustang.

http://engineering.mishimoto.com/?cat=207

Additionally, if we have enough interest, we would like to launch a pre-sale for this kit with discounted pricing for the members of 6G. If you are interested, feel free to chime in!

Mishimoto 2015+ Ford Mustang 2.3L EcoBoost Direct-Fit Baffled Oil Catch Can System, Part 1: Introduction and Project Plans


Mishimoto 2015 Ford Mustang EcoBoost

Does it need a catch can?
This question is on the minds of many vehicle enthusiasts. If it doesn’t add power, why would I want it? Why should I waste my money on it? All valid questions here. True, a catch can install will not add power to your vehicle, but that does not negate its function as a beneficial component for your vehicle.

Let’s jump into the basic benefits of a catch can. Its primary function is to separate and collect oil and fuel by-products from your vehicle’s crankcase ventilation (CCV) system before they reenter the intake tract. If these by-products are not captured, they move into the intake system, which can cause several problems. But first, let’s learn a bit about CCV systems and how they function to improve emissions and protect our environment.
Without going into too much detail, your engine features a CCV (crankcase ventilation) system that works to improve engine efficiency and emissions. During engine operation the crankcase generates pressure as combustion gases pass the piston rings. This pressure is evacuated from the crankcase and is routed into the intake system. The byproducts within the ventilated air will then be burned in the combustion process.When oil enters the intake, it coats the tract, throttle body, and valves. It is then burned in the combustion chamber, which lowers the octane rating of the mixture. Although not optimal for performance, this process does create a clean engine that requires no emptying of by-products and contaminants. Most manufacturers utilize this process. Ideally, however, these contaminants should be separated, collected, and disposed of properly.

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Mishimoto 2015 Ford Mustang EcoBoost engine bay

Every engine is susceptible to blow-by from the piston rings. It is impossible to have a completely leak-free seal between the rings and cylinder wall. If pressure builds up in the crankcase, it will eventually find a weak point, normally a gasket or seal, and will result in fluid leaks.

Ford Mustang 2.3L EcoBoost CCV System
Two primary lines make up the CCV system equipped on most modern engines. The first, the makeup air line, routes from the valve cover to the intake piping. This line provides a light vacuum on the crankcase and is mostly used during wide-open throttle situations. This line can be found on the passenger side of the 2.3L Ecoboost and routes to the intake just before the turbocharger compressor housing. Check out a shot of the port on the valve cover and the stock line.


Makeup air line valve cover port 2.3L EcoBoost


Makeup air line stock hose 2.3L EcoBoost


Makeup air line stock hose 2.3L EcoBoost

You will notice a few unique features on this hose. One, this hose features some slick quick-disconnect fittings that seal to the connection points with an O-ring. Second, this line features an in-line sensor. Take a closer look at this sensor, which reads pressure/flow.


Makeup air line sensor

This sensor would help identify any leaks or blockages in the system, which could cause internal engine concerns or just emissions problems. We would need to retain this particular component when we develop our kit.

The second, the ventilation line, routes from the PCV valve to the throttle body. A small plate attaches to the side of the engine block on the driver side of the vehicle, which encompasses the PCV valve. This line features a higher vacuum source than the makeup air line. The ventilation line is used during idle and part-throttle driving situations. The valve works to eliminate the pressure from the intake manifold so it cannot enter the crankcase. Here is a shot of the connection point, just after the throttle body.


PCV Throttle body port

The other end of this hose is connected to a plate that encompasses the PCV valve. This is very similar to the 2.0L EcoBoost engine found in the Focus, as well as a few other Ford models from the 2000s. Take a look at this unique PCV valve system.


2.0L EcoBoost PCV port

The hose shown below connects the PCV valve to the throttle body.


Mustang PCV to throttle body stock hose

These two hoses/lines will function together to provide optimal crankcase pressures for efficient operation. Engines typically function more efficiently with a slight pull on the crankcase.

Now that we know how the system functions, we can determine what will happen if this system is left as stock, without the use of a catch can.

Pitfalls of Not Utilizing a Catch Can

  1. Oil will coat the internal portion of your intake and intercooler system.
The internal combustion engines is not typically the cleanest area of a vehicle. Fluids, gases, byproducts, and general noise are to be expected (this is why we love them!). That being said, you do not want the internal air tract of your brand new vehicle to be coated in oil? This oil can cause sticking/failing components (throttle body), and can even reduce the efficiency of your intercooler. As oil builds up on the internal portion of this heat exchanger, it will begin to reduce the effectiveness of that cooler. Imagine popping off your intercooler, only to be treated to a solid half quart of oil spilling all over yourself (VW TDI problems!). In general, the earlier you add a catch can to the system, the less chance you have of buildup over time. Keep your intake system clean and you should have fewer issues in the long run.

  1. Oil/carbon will build up on your intake valves, eventually resulting in reduced flow or blockages.
This occurs commonly in a variety of vehicles featuring direct-injection systems. Fuel is a fantastic solvent and can work to degrease certain components. In a traditional port-injection system, fuel is sprayed into the intake manifold before the valves, which allows the fuel to clean the valves on its way into the combustion chamber. In a direct-injection engine, this fuel is sprayed directly into the chamber and never makes contact with the portion of the valve in the manifold. Several other manufacturers/vehicles with direct injection (e.g., BMW E90, VW 2.0T) have had serious problems with valve buildups, necessitating a cleaning service every 40K–60K miles. This is a dubious tradeoff for the improved fuel economy and power. A catch can will reduce this buildup and increase the time interval between valve cleanings.
If a valve begins to incur deposits, airflow into the combustion chamber can be reduced or even blocked, which would negatively affect performance. This is another reason you want to keep the intake tract of your vehicle clean.

  1. Oil is burned in the combustion chamber, reducing the octane rating of the mixture and increasing the chance of predetonation.
If you are unable to capture the oil deposits before they enter the combustion chamber, the negative impact will continue. Oil will reduce the octane rating of the fuel mixture, which would then increase the chance of detonation. Not good, especially for vehicles with aggressive tunes. Once again, this will have a serious negative impact on your vehicle’s performance.


I hope none of this scared you away from driving your car! These issues are generally accepted by vehicle manufacturers; however, they are not ideal. Your car is not going to fall to pieces if you continue to drive it as-is for 100,000 miles. However, if you want to effectively reduce the negative impacts of the CCV system on your new Mustang, a catch can is a great upgrade for you. We could call this an upgrade in preventive maintenance.
With our new knowledge of the Mustang system, it was time to set our team to work selecting a catch can and making brackets and lines.

Check back with us next time for a look at our projected catch can setup, including some fabrication work to design the brackets.

Thanks for reading!
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Same here, another interesting write up. Thanks
I'd be interested.
I'm interested depending on price. What are we looking at?
Interest level----High!
Thanks for the interest guys! Pricing is yet to be determined. We are currently testing a dual can setup, one for the PCV line and the other for the breather line. We are still road testing this prototype to determine how much fluid each can is collecting. Once complete, we can decide if this kit needs to be a single or dual can system. This will impact pricing, but either way the kit will be an awesome value. Our pre-sale pricing will also be discounted for those jumping on the deal.

Thanks again! Any more interest?
 

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