CORVETTE ZR1-X ?

[MAGS1]

Fair points. GM is building to a common denominator. Most of these cars will prowl around downtown at no more than 12 miles an hour.

It's my position this is another soulless car chasing the numbers, and losing sight of the essence of what makes a car special. And it's performance figures are astounding. Both things can be true. And I think when you read "if it only had a manual", what you are really reading is someone who believes this car is soulless. There is no one on the planet that believes they can shift faster than these modern transmissions.

All time great cars like the 458 Speciale, the OG Countach, the C6Z, and the GT350R are a thing of the past. Meanwhile screens, HP figures, and Nuremburg times are what MFG's now chase.

This car, as bad ass and technologically savvy as it is, will never be mentioned with the four cars I have listed. It will always be a sidenote in history. "Oh the Americans made a Corvette with the engine on the wrong end and still made enough room for golf bats."

I know I am an outlier here. But I don't care. I love this car and despise it at the same time.

That’s all fair and we all like what we like. The manual fits the GT350/R so well, they’re a perfect match. I personally don’t think a manual would do the C8 or a S550 GT500 justice, they’re DCT is perfect for those cars. Just like I don’t think an auto or a DCT would be the best match for the 350.

But you’re right, GM, Ford, etc are all catering to what people are buying. The number of people buying a manual transmission is way down from even 10 years ago. I like options and I hope Ford keeps offering a manual in the Mustang, but it wouldn’t surprise me if they go away from them at some point. The cost won’t justify the production at some point in time.

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[TonyT930]

I don’t get it

No surprise...

 

[WItoTX]

That’s all fair and we all like what we like. The manual fits the GT350/R so well, they’re a perfect match. I personally don’t think a manual would do the C8 or a S550 GT500 justice, they’re DCT is perfect for those cars. Just like I don’t think an auto or a DCT would be the best match for the 350.

But you’re right, GM, Ford, etc are all catering to what people are buying. The number of people buying a manual transmission is way down from even 10 years ago. I like options and I hope Ford keeps offering a manual in the Mustang, but it wouldn’t surprise me if they go away from them at some point. The cost won’t justify the production at some point in time.

Agreed on the DCT on the 500 and all the C8 versions. Hell even the GTD should have a DCT.

 

[Avaric3]

No surprise...

**Angry ecoboost noises**

 

[Jasonb543]

@Headless Horseman

Ford really only cares about the F150 and its sales…
The F150 IS FOMOCO

 

[Paddles]

Fair points. GM is building to a common denominator. Most of these cars will prowl around downtown at no more than 12 miles an hour.

It's my position this is another soulless car chasing the numbers, and losing sight of the essence of what makes a car special. And it's performance figures are astounding. Both things can be true. And I think when you read "if it only had a manual", what you are really reading is someone who believes this car is soulless. There is no one on the planet that believes they can shift faster than these modern transmissions.

All time great cars like the 458 Speciale, the OG Countach, the C6Z, and the GT350R are a thing of the past. Meanwhile screens, HP figures, and Nuremburg times are what MFG's now chase.

This car, as bad ass and technologically savvy as it is, will never be mentioned with the four cars I have listed. It will always be a sidenote in history. "Oh the Americans made a Corvette with the engine on the wrong end and still made enough room for golf bats."

I know I am an outlier here. But I don't care. I love this car and despise it at the same time.

Those cars all have a ton of character, good picks.
I've personally always wanted one of those Diablos with the Nissan headlights.

 

[Headless Horseman]

To build a car the likes of a ZR1 or ZR1-X would require a total new division much like the old SVT. The cost of developing a totally new car would be astronomical. As Ford has never considered the Corvette a Mustang competitor (except for the 2 seat Thunderbird) why would they start now?

Besides if they were to do it would you really want to see a mid engine all wheel drive hybird with only a dual clutch tranny? There would be nothing else that could compete with the Vette.

I certainly don't want to see that. It's been done. I'd like to see something that wasn't copy and pasted, innovative. I still feel the S550 with the GT(PP1,2), BULLIT, GT350, GT500, MACH1 just raised my expectations too much. Those cars are all bad ass and IMO all better than the S650. Also, Im certainly an auto guy. My uncle and the other Manual Men out there deserve something while they're still here.

 

[JFBullitt]

Fair points. GM is building to a common denominator. Most of these cars will prowl around downtown at no more than 12 miles an hour.

It's my position this is another soulless car chasing the numbers, and losing sight of the essence of what makes a car special. And it's performance figures are astounding. Both things can be true. And I think when you read "if it only had a manual", what you are really reading is someone who believes this car is soulless. There is no one on the planet that believes they can shift faster than these modern transmissions.

All time great cars like the 458 Speciale, the OG Countach, the C6Z, and the GT350R are a thing of the past. Meanwhile screens, HP figures, and Nuremburg times are what MFG's now chase.

This car, as bad ass and technologically savvy as it is, will never be mentioned with the four cars I have listed. It will always be a sidenote in history. "Oh the Americans made a Corvette with the engine on the wrong end and still made enough room for golf bats."

I know I am an outlier here. But I don't care. I love this car and despise it at the same time.

It's the Nurburgring(Nordschleife) btw. Nuremburg was where the WWII tribunals were held.

 

[qwiknotch]

Agreed on the DCT on the 500 and all the C8 versions. Hell even the GTD should have a DCT.

It has an 8 speed transaxle dct

 

[_zOmbIE_]

It's the Nurburgring(Nordschleife) btw. Nuremburg was where the WWII tribunals were held.

Thank f&ck someone else caught that

 

[_zOmbIE_]

I have to LOL at some of the manual comments. Drive a C8, the DCT is the perfect transmission for that car. Shifts are lightning fast and the programming is top notch. Drive it hard and the shifts are optimal, keeping you in the power band the entire time. You won’t shift a manual better.

I love a manual as much as anyone else, but it’s not needed in the C8 and quite honestly might hold it back.

And no, offering a manual will not garner more interest in it. There’s a reason everyone is discontinuing manuals, nobody wants them anymore. Heck, Ford stopped charging extra for the automatic in the Mustang. That should tell you all you need to know about people’s interest in manuals.

You can LOL all you like. Fact of the matter is, if there were a manual available for the C8, I would have one in my garage right now.

I'm clearly not the only one who wants a manual in the C8, so I would suggest the interest is there.

I don't care if a DCT can shift in 0.0000002 seconds, I care if *I* can shift in a second and a half.

 

[MAGS1]

so I would suggest the interest is there.

Not enough interest, that’s pretty clear. Why do you think manuals are fading? Demand continues to decline, sales figures show that pretty clearly.

 

[WItoTX]

It's the Nurburgring(Nordschleife) btw. Nuremburg was where the WWII tribunals were held.

Glad all my other points are solid.

I'm just too lazy to fix my auto correct.

I will say, it's very bad ass that we basically tell Germany, hey we know you have a word for this thing, but f you, were naming it something else less dumb. Your country is now "Germany". Screw your Deutschland

 

[AcceptableNebula]

You can LOL all you like. Fact of the matter is, if there were a manual available for the C8, I would have one in my garage right now.

I'm clearly not the only one who wants a manual in the C8, so I would suggest the interest is there.

I don't care if a DCT can shift in 0.0000002 seconds, I care if *I* can shift in a second and a half.

It’s just twin 4 speed manual transmissions but were born conjoined twins with kinky tendencies.

 

[bobdes368]

Beautiful car.

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