Cooled seats not cooling

[n8rfastback]

Wasn't there a guy on here offering to do some work printing parts on a 3d printer?

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[Darko66]

I just suggested someone with some skill and a 3D printer could fashion something. I was thinking more off venting of the heat vs the crafty front seat CAI.

The F-150 one pictured might be venting off the heat with the flex tubing. Can't tell from the photo if it still has the same round air intake with the replaceable filter that the other old units do.

 

[FeedtheNeed]

Not to mention over time I expect that 120 degrees to take a toll on the seat.

 

[Darko66]

I think this is the unit in the back off the recent F-150s - AA5Z-19N550-A.

As a replacement part it cost almost twice as much retail $122 vs $65 for the one in the Mustang.

Looks like maybe the filter is along the rounded edge. The photo shows the seat side of the unit. The cool side vent is pointing up on the left edge.

It would be nice if this unit or one similar could plug directly into our seat intake with the same electrical, etc.

 

[peetucket]

Cooled seats, what cooled seats!? :doh:

I will let Ford Customer Service escalate. As not only does it not cool, it actually feels like it is heating.

 

[Blk2015GT]

I think this is the unit in the back off the recent F-150s - AA5Z-19N550-A.

As a replacement part it cost almost twice as much retail $122 vs $65 for the one in the Mustang.

Looks like maybe the filter is along the rounded edge. The photo shows the seat side of the unit. The cool side vent is pointing up on the left edge.

It would be nice if this unit or one similar could plug directly into our seat intake with the same electrical, etc.

That's what I was referring to, but the fan unit (round part) connects directly into the seat on the F150. there is no hose to the seat like our Msutangs.

It would probably be easier to craft the bottom ducting up to the fan shroud that looks removable than change the motor cooling ducting.

 

[Darko66]

Definitely easier and cheaper, but unlikely better. Even if you fix the air intake like droid's mod, there's still the heat venting into the seat right next to the cold air tube. His seats sort of worked already, I believe, at least better than those of us whose seats just get hotter from the start. It might not provide us the same success.

The tubing on ours is an oddity. It might save a little depth which is maybe why they did it that way to give a little more leg room for back seat passengers, but it hurts performance. The blower could plug right into the seat cushion's input if the ports are compatible. I guess the one I showed wouldn't work, since it would be male to male. I've seen other blower units though that just have a flat opening for the cold air output.

Just a wish on my part that Ford will choose to change it to the way they should have been done in the first place vs trying to makeshift it. Oh well, maybe we'll know by next summer.

 

[GT Pony]

Cooled seats, what cooled seats!? :doh:

I will let Ford Customer Service escalate. As not only does it not cool, it actually feels like it is heating.

Yeah, I don't get it why the dealerships don't think the seat backs are supposed to cool. Probably because no S550 actually works correctly, so therefore they think it's "normal". :headbonk:

 

[djt81185]

Just to add to this I drove an ecoboost premium at the dealer last week when it was about 91 out and even after getting the car cooled down on max ac the seat was marginally cold (nowhere near as cold as my old 2012 fx4) and the back was still warm.

I want this car with working cooled seats and as such wont be buying one until its fixed.

 

[Free Agent]

Yeah, I don't get it why the dealerships don't think the seat backs are supposed to cool. Probably because no S550 actually works correctly, so therefore they think it's "normal". :headbonk:

Just another reason I find it pointless to take mine in. Playing "games" with the customer even after the sale.

He should have bet the service manager his next paycheck that it had an upper seat cooler then proceeded to show him this thread, show him the actual cooler and then collect his money from the moron who said "it isn't supposed to cool the upper seat". Incompetency!!!

 

[Droid_Junky]

Definitely easier and cheaper, but unlikely better. Even if you fix the air intake like droid's mod, there's still the heat venting into the seat right next to the cold air tube. His seats sort of worked already, I believe, at least better than those of us whose seats just get hotter from the start. It might not provide us the same success.

The tubing on ours is an oddity. It might save a little depth which is maybe why they did it that way to give a little more leg room for back seat passengers, but it hurts performance. The blower could plug right into the seat cushion's input if the ports are compatible. I guess the one I showed wouldn't work, since it would be male to male. I've seen other blower units though that just have a flat opening for the cold air output.

Just a wish on my part that Ford will choose to change it to the way they should have been done in the first place vs trying to makeshift it. Oh well, maybe we'll know by next summer.

I don't think I said that mine were cool at the start. I only started doing my own investigation because all I felt was heat. The only time I said they worked was when I bought the car and it was 40 degrees outside.

The exhaust heat in the back of the seat was greatly reduced with my mod because I was now cooling the peltier with cabin air but I suspect it could be even better if the duct was more planned out. Compared to what I felt before the mod, I would be satisfied with just adding the tubing.

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[RubyRed15]

"Design Risk 101" ... saving the cost by $1 per vehicle may end up costing you $100 per vehicle

That's why in a case like this, adequate testing of the design needs to be verified. I have a feeling the testing was lacking, as I don't see how this could have slipped by with testing that would have easily caught the problem.

"You can pay now, or you can pay later."

Write that down, Ford.

 

[RubyRed15]

Yeah, I don't get it why the dealerships don't think the seat backs are supposed to cool.

Because they're all in cahoots with Ford.

 

[Darko66]

I don't think I said that mine were cool at the start. I only started doing my own investigation because all I felt was heat. The only time I said they worked was when I bought the car and it was 40 degrees outside.

The exhaust heat in the back of the seat was greatly reduced with my mod because I was now cooling the peltier with cabin air but I suspect it could be even better if the duct was more planned out. Compared to what I felt before the mod, I would be satisfied with just adding the tubing.

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Sorry, I misspoke. I really should have said yours appeared to not work as poorly as those of us with the seat warming problem. We might have an additional problem that's causing that. Your mod would definitely help us. I was just questioning if it would help us enough.

Thanks for all of your investigating and tinkering.

 

[Droid_Junky]

Sorry, I misspoke. I really should have said yours appeared to not work as poorly as those of us with the seat warming problem. We might have an additional problem that's causing that. Your mod would definitely help us. I was just questioning if it would help us enough.

Thanks for all of your investigating and tinkering.

No worries, but just to be clear. At least from what I have read mine was one of the ones that has the seat warming issue. I measured 110 degrees at the rubber duct inside the seat at one point. This thread has gotten really long in the last week but from what I have seen there has only been two of us that actually measured the temps. Either way, It was downright uncomfortable, which is why I took it into the dealer and then did the mod since it is clear that Ford won't be resolving it any time soon.

At this point with the design we were given, in my opinion its all relative to were you live and where your car is parked. I suspect many other drivers will chime in over the summer months. In my case, while at work it's parked outside (but covered) for eight hours. The temp is hitting 90 now so the interior is even hotter. The cover doesn't do much at all for shielding heat. So leaving work I am starting off with a seat that is already extremely hot and the device starts out recirculating hot air and continues to recycle hot air the entire drive. I have not tested the mod after leaving work. That test should happen tomorrow.

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