Ceratec Experiment... Does it fall out?

[accel]

PUP 5w-30 and call it a day.

People with tick tried a lot of things here. Not just pup 5w30.

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[accel]

I'm starting to wonder that, even though I emailed Liquimoly, and they said it was perfectly fine to use every oil change.

Yeah.... I'm on my second sequential ceratec fill. Will have to think on what the strategy would be for next oil change.

I'm switching to Castrol they use in Europe, that is for sure.

P.S. And that's me - not even knowing if I have tick. I added ceratec shortly after getting new short block.

P.P.S. Liqui Moly statement on ceratec life is a bit misleading. One would think they could state things like this better.

 

[Zinc03svt]

People with tick tried a lot of things here. Not just pup 5w30.

Mine will only tick occasionally on warm up. Once up to temp it goes away. Car burns zero oil and runs like a raped ape. I’m not worried...

 

[accel]

I'm starting to wonder that, even though I emailed Liquimoly, and they said it was perfectly fine to use every oil change.

I think what can be done next oil change is this:

- cut oil filter and check for sediments. The way it is located makes it possible for ceratec to stick to its bottom.

- come up with something that would let scrub oil pan through oil drain and see if there's anything in there.

My car is almost weekend only car, so it is not being driven often. If ceratec settles like in your jar, it should be obvious.

I will not be able to do this soon, as I've recently changed oil, but will post once done so.

One thing I noticed durin oil change - my pass. oil catch can caught some ceratec.

 

[Condor1970]

I open all my oil filters every 5,000mi oil change. Only thing I find is a few tablespoons of silver glitter. It's real pretty like Christmas.

 

[dguzzi]

Has Ceratec seen that picture (with the sediment)?

 

[Condor1970]

Has Ceratec seen that picture (with the sediment)?

I have no idea. I hope they do, and explain whether or not this could be a serious problem. Since I drive my car all the time, and it only sits for a few days at a time over the weekends, then the only sediment that one would think could be an issue, would be somewhere inside the engine oil passages where there may be a dead spot of flow where it could settle. Otherwise, the oil pan gets heated and sloshed around almost daily. So, I wouldn't think much would build up in the oil pan from normal constant use. The sediment issue I would think would be a most notable problem after storing your car for a long time.

If you'll notice carefully in my pics. After adding some fresh oil to the jar and shaking, it did in fact pull "some" of the Ceratec back into the oil, and the bottom of the jar has a bare spot from shaking after a few minutes.

The jar is still sitting in my garage. I'm going to add some fresh oil, heat it up to about 200F and shake it again to see if it releases the rest. If it does, then maybe it isn't such a big deal. Perhaps heat and driving for a few minutes does a better job of keeping it suspended in the oil versus just shaking it with cold oil at 50F outside in my garage.

 

[dguzzi]

Ok, I thought you might have a conversation with them, based on their claims.

 

[Enzo]

Yeah.... I'm on my second sequential ceratec fill. Will have to think on what the strategy would be for next oil change.

I'm switching to Castrol they use in Europe, that is for sure.

P.S. And that's me - not even knowing if I have tick. I added ceratec shortly after getting new short block.

P.P.S. Liqui Moly statement on ceratec life is a bit misleading. One would think they could state things like this better.

I used Castrol with the titanium technology. It helped to smooth out the motor a lot compared to mobil1. Which one are you referring to?

 

[accel]

I used Castrol with the titanium technology. It helped to smooth out the motor a lot compared to mobil1. Which one are you referring to?

Someone from Europe posted a picture of Castrol Magnatec here claiming it to be default dealer oil in Europe. I am just going to use it because percentage wise they mostly do not have bbq tick at USA scale.

Myself I had the tick and switched between MC, Mobil1, Castrol Edge, pennzoil, Red Line in my attempts to get rid of the tick, but obviously nothing helped but ceratec.

I am not convincing anyone, but myself witnessed how non ticking engine started ticking right after the oil change. It was pretty much new oil (~100-200 miles old mc 5w20) into new red line 5w20 oil. I am not buying contaminated or shearing oil arguments here. Oil change process itself is the problem in my books. And yes, I know millions engines are going through oil changes with no issues. But we speak of Coyote specifically here and not of Honda civic engine oe some other engine. Not even all coyotes are prone to the tick. But mine is.

Could be that very short oil starvation in Coyote is enough to cause some minor damage that does not have long term issues per Ford, but does cause discomfort for me and other owners.

If you read marketing story of castrol magnatec, they claim oil sticks "like a magnet" everywhere, hence the name. Of course it is not magnetic literally, but might be protecting during oil change better than other "non sticking" oils.

 

[Enzo]

Someone from Europe posted a picture of Castrol Magnatec here claiming it to be default dealer oil in Europe. I am just going to use it because percentage wise they mostly do not have bbq tick at USA scale.

Myself I had the tick and switched between MC, Mobil1, Castrol Edge, pennzoil, Red Line in my attempts to get rid of the tick, but obviously nothing helped but ceratec.

I am not convincing anyone, but myself witnessed how non ticking engine started ticking right after the oil change. It was pretty much new oil (~100-200 miles old mc 5w20) into new red line 5w20 oil. I am not buying contaminated or shearing oil arguments here. Oil change process itself is the problem in my books. And yes, I know millions engines are going through oil changes with no issues. But we speak of Coyote specifically here and not of Honda civic engine oe some other engine. Not even all coyotes are prone to the tick. But mine is.

Could be that very short oil starvation in Coyote is enough to cause some minor damage that does not have long term issues per Ford, but does cause discomfort for me and other owners.

If you read marketing story of castrol magnatec, they claim oil sticks "like a magnet" everywhere, hence the name. Of course it is not magnetic literally, but might be protecting during oil change better than other "non sticking" oils.

I think you may be correct here, as the oil starvation at startup is what may be causing the tick. I have it as well, as my motor warms up, the tick goes away and you can barely hear it. After switching to the Castrol Edge Titanium Tech one, I have noticed it become much quieter than mobil1. When using Ceratec, the oil sticks and leaves a strong film behind preventing metal on metal contact. Could also precisely be the reason why when using the Castrol Magnatec, the typerwriter tick is not present, due to the oil sticking "like a magnet". Reason I switched to Castrol edge is due to a buddy of mine. He has no tick, and his engine runs butter smooth. I've tried every oil out there since my 16 GT to my 18 GT. I used Mobil1, Royal Purple, Amsoil, RedLine, Motorcract, and now Castrol. It was with Castrol that I noticed the biggest difference. Even the Ford GT race car uses Castrol.

 

[accel]

I think you may be correct here, as the oil starvation at startup is what may be causing the tick. I have it as well, as my motor warms up, the tick goes away and you can barely hear it. After switching to the Castrol Edge Titanium Tech one, I have noticed it become much quieter than mobil1. When using Ceratec, the oil sticks and leaves a strong film behind preventing metal on metal contact. Could also precisely be the reason why when using the Castrol Magnatec, the typerwriter tick is not present, due to the oil sticking "like a magnet". Reason I switched to Castrol edge is due to a buddy of mine. He has no tick, and his engine runs butter smooth. I've tried every oil out there since my 16 GT to my 18 GT. I used Mobil1, Royal Purple, Amsoil, RedLine, Motorcract, and now Castrol. It was with Castrol that I noticed the biggest difference. Even the Ford GT race car uses Castrol.

Are you having tick on both of your cars?

Yeah... I have edge titanium in my garage, but will try to get magnatec if I can.

If not, I feel like adding oil additive that builds some sort of film around engine parts _preventatively_ should minimize chances of getting tick.

If you hot the tick already it's either sgort block repl. (not avail anymore) or ceratec, or maybe you do not care like some.

 

[Enzo]

Are you having tick on both of your cars?

Yeah... I have edge titanium in my garage, but will try to get magnatec if I can.

If not, I feel like adding oil additive that builds some sort of film around engine parts _preventatively_ should minimize chances of getting tick.

If you hot the tick already it's either sgort block repl. (not avail anymore) or ceratec, or maybe you do not care like some.

I had the tick on my 16 GT and ended up receiving a short block replacement, and there was proof that there was damage to the short block. I will use that as precedent if the same occurs in my 18. However my 18 only has a tick during a cold start, and goes away when warm. It's not as severe as my 16, but it sounds eerily similar, which concerns me. However at this point, since it goes away when warmed up.

It's definitely amazing how ceratec quiets these motors down tremendously and makes them run smoother.

 

[accel]

It's definitely amazing how ceratec quiets these motors down tremendously and makes them run smoother.

It's also amazing how some people do not have tick, but some have it several times in a row.

 

[Enzo]

It's also amazing how some people do not have tick, but some have it several times in a row.

Mine also both happened right after oil change.

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