Bad boys and Mustangs

[KeyLime]

In the SF Bay Area the sideshows are more sinister than a bunch of teens with cars. The smallest I've seen is 50 cars and they've topped out at 500. The average sideshow is 150-200. They are usually pre -planned by promoters and the participants and spectators aren't exactly the opera/ballet crowd. Injuries, shootings, property damage are all part of the game. 5 shot in Oakland Saturday night. The sideshows are large enough, and organized enough that it's difficult for the cops to do much. When 200 cars and 400 people show up in the wee hours of the morning it's not a driving display, it's a rolling riot.

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[Jaymar]

https://www.opb.org/article/2023/05/30/oregon-worsening-drug-crisis-fentanyl-overdoses/

Neat, you read an article on the Internet. But the fentanyl crisis isn't unique to Oregon nor does it stem from a lack of resources on behalf of law enforcement. There wasn't an uptick in overdoses just because police dedicated resources to stopping this before it got out of hand.

 

[Prodigal]

“Skidding in circles”
<snort>

 

[K4fxd]

I don't agree with street takeovers, some fun on the street, OK. Give the cops some discretion since many of these cities have forced the closing of race tracks.

Kids are going to be kids. Give them a place without 10,000 rules and costs in the mega dollar range.

That is the beauty of the "ring" in Germany. Anyone with a car can run it.

We need places like this in American cities. Maybe a large municipal parking lot where kids can go to do burnouts drifting ect. Wouldn't be too hard and if it were cheap and not too many rules would stop the majority of these takeovers.

but no one seems to think past their own nose.

 

[WItoTX]

I mean there was just as many Camaros. Portland definitely has bigger fish to fry than kids doing donuts at intersections. Probably confiscated because they were V8s more than anything.

 

[K4fxd]

Probably confiscated because they were V8s more than anything.

In Portland you are probably right.

 

[KeyLime]

I don't agree with street takeovers, some fun on the street, OK. Give the cops some discretion since many of these cities have forced the closing of race tracks.

Kids are going to be kids. Give them a place without 10,000 rules and costs in the mega dollar range.

That is the beauty of the "ring" in Germany. Anyone with a car can run it.

We need places like this in American cities. Maybe a large municipal parking lot where kids can go to do burnouts drifting ect. Wouldn't be too hard and if it were cheap and not too many rules would stop the majority of these takeovers.

but no one seems to think past their own nose.

Just kids being kids.

 

[K4fxd]

Just kids being kids.

Someone always takes things out of context.

 

[KeyLime]

This isn't out of context. It's reality in the Bay Area. Every weekend there are destructive, violent sideshows. Don't confuse this with the low-rider culture and coffee and cars. Those folks put money into their rides and are proud of them. The sideshow culture is about stealing cars and wrecking them in intersections. Promoters making money from website views, selling gangster gear/apparel online and having pay to join subscription plans so spectators can get the latest updates and news. Sideshows are choreographed in real time on message apps (pay to play). It's gotten to the point that LA promoters are coming to the Bay Area with their minions for big time fun (LA to the Bay).

Granted, in Nebraska there may be some high school teens doing donuts and a safe place to carry on would be great. But in the big cities midnight basketball doesn't solve violent crime. It's simply preaching to the choir.

 

[K4fxd]

This isn't out of context.

You took what I said out of context. I specifically said I'm against street takeovers. Some fun on the street is ok, officer discretion as far as enforcement.

Read everything I say not your snippet.

I don't agree with street takeovers, some fun on the street, OK. Give the cops some discretion since many of these cities have forced the closing of race tracks.

 

[KeyLime]

You took what I said out of context. I specifically said I'm against street takeovers. Some fun on the street is ok, officer discretion as far as enforcement.

Read everything I say not your snippet.

My apologies if I interpreted your post incorrectly. This is a real hot button issue for me.

I agree. Some good time fun is okay and cops shouldn't drop the hammer on everyone. The sideshows have just gotten so outrageous here. I work sideshow suppression and sometimes I feel like Sisyphus pushing the boulder up the hill.

 

[Johnny Rockit]

Shoot a few and it stops quickly.

 

[ice445]

My apologies if I interpreted your post incorrectly. This is a real hot button issue for me.

I agree. Some good time fun is okay and cops shouldn't drop the hammer on everyone. The sideshows have just gotten so outrageous here. I work sideshow suppression and sometimes I feel like Sisyphus pushing the boulder up the hill.

Sideshows are just one of the many canaries in the coal mine of the degeneration of American culture and values. I hate to say it, but this is what decades of fatherless behavior leads to. I think California is especially predisposed to this because of its softening of the justice system. When you take a bunch of kids who have never been told "no" in their lives with no direction and no purpose, of course they're gonna test the limits of society as a whole and each other. It's as much of a group activity as a prison chain gang, lol. It's like a pot of boiling water, each molecule bouncing off each other increases the heat of the system. Much like how these kids see what others are doing and then want to top that, and so on and so forth. That's how you get the shootings and other nonsense overlaid on top.

I don't mean to make this into a political thread, and I know there were always people like this. But this phenomenon isn't going away any time soon now that they've had a taste of what they can get away with.

 

[Prodigal]

I gotta admit, just once I would like to see one of these crazy sideshows in person from a safe distance. Cars bouncing off the rev limiter, crazy donuts, the occassional moron being tossed out a passenger window or being slammed by a rear quarter panel .

 

[MachNroll]

Busy night for the Portland, OR police. At least five Mustangs involved, but not all of them were S550s...

https://www.portlandoregon.gov/police/news/read.cfm?id=533606

A possible byproduct of these images and sideshows in general is that those of us law abiding Mustang/Camaro/Dodge (I'm sure they exist /Corvette owners are on the receiving end (due to perception) of being lumped in with those who are creating the havoc and driving these cars. I drive like an old man (because I am one) and I consistently get eyeballed by law enforcement when I'm in my M1. So, I drive like an adult because I believe (my opinion only) that if I drive at all like an idiot law enforcement, having to constantly deal with sideshows that involve Mustangs and the aforementioned vehicles, will most likely be more inclined to issue me a citation because they are just fed up with it. And, as a side note, I never take my M1 out on a Friday or Saturday evening in my community because of the sideshow activity and I just don't want to inadvertently stumble into a sideshow and get scooped up for being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Or worse, have my car damaged.

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