Any supercharger regrets?

[SBR70.3]

Year: 2016
Trim: GT Premium
Manual / auto: MT-82
Rear gears: 3.73
Blower mfr & type: Procharger HO w/P1x
RWHP (if known):
Tune Wengerd

I'm in "it's fun, but I wouldn't do it again" camp. Mainly because I have no interest in drag racing, and it's mostly unusable on the street unless you're willing to take significant risks and consequences of being pulled over for 2x over the speed limit violations. Plus, the headache of dealing with failed cats or messing with catless setups is just not something I needed in life.

The idea of having a toy with monstrous power is very exciting at first, but over time it becomes just a car that you cannot really floor anywhere unless you take it to a track.

I will echo this opinion. In hindsight, given the way I want to drive my Mustangs, I wish I would not have supercharged it. I do HPDEs with my cars and the Procharger was not a wise idea. Restricting airflow to a car that already has heat issues on the track only amplified the problem. If I had a time machine, I would have done long tube headers, a fuel system, and E85 on my 2016GT.

I have blown the catalytic converters and now I am having issues with the bearings in one of the pulleys becoming damaged and causing the serpentine belt to shred. Car is in the shop now trying to find the fix.

Is it blast flooring it getting on the highway? F ya! But that is about all I use the power for.

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[wingnutt]

Regarding injectors, I see most suppliers offer them as an option. Are they needed regardless of how much boost or what type of supercharger? Is a boost a pump also needed regardless?

I can only reference Procharger on a voodoo…and yes injectors are needed but boostapump is not for the base kit at ~6psi (4.38 pulley)

 

[DAVECS1]

2017 PP1. It has been a blast, but definetly not a one and done project. I have a Gen 2 whipple I believe. I got the 3L design for the body in white cars at the time. I had to add a significant oil cooler. I also had to upgrade he water to air intercool kit. I also ended up changing the belly pan and hood to get air to flow through engine bay. Was going to do diff and trans cooler, but using the BG products from Optimum and changing them often really has kept things in check and saved me the weight. Lots of chassis improvement and slicks make it a ball!

 

[Zrussian13]

Regarding injectors, I see most suppliers offer them as an option. Are they needed regardless of how much boost or what type of supercharger? Is a boost a pump also needed regardless?

If you want reliable don't skimp on fuel. If your not doing a fuel system spent the extra few hundred and get the bap with your injectors. It's just extra insurance to make sure you always have enough fuel.

 

[SBR70.3]

Your car looks amazing!!! Are those the Conti Extreme Contact Force? If so, thoughts? Size you are using?

 

[DAVECS1]

Your car looks amazing!!! Are those the Conti Extreme Contact Force? If so, thoughts? Size you are using?

They are the Conti's. I dont have much experience with driving slicks, I have engineered a number of vehicles using them. In all transparency I got a great deal on them, so figured why not. After using them I am not sure I will go back to a street tire on the track. The car was so much more predictable, I could slide with confidence, everything was just way more fun. My temps were actually down a bit with slicks. The only drawback is it took a lap or so before you could lean on them.

 

[JoeCee]

I'm in "it's fun, but I wouldn't do it again" camp. Mainly because I have no interest in drag racing, and it's mostly unusable on the street unless you're willing to take significant risks and consequences of being pulled over for 2x over the speed limit violations. Plus, the headache of dealing with failed cats or messing with catless setups is just not something I needed in life.

The idea of having a toy with monstrous power is very exciting at first, but over time it becomes just a car that you cannot really floor anywhere unless you take it to a track.

Im thinking like you! I actually bought 2020 gt500 cats to have fabbed in. Fab work $850, cats $800, no fucking idea if I want pad or centri blower. Worried about crank snouts. I said screw it just doing e85 tune and 3.55 gear swap as most streets around me are 35 or 40 mph anyway. I also do not drag race. Can I afford all of this? Absolutely. Is it worth spending all that money just to ride around and say I have 700 horse at the wheels? No

 

[Wolfys11]

I see alot of the negative concensus is regret because they wont use the power. Though a valid point, i would like to bring up that it is still usable power to have 700whp on the street with a good gear ratio, power curve, tire, suspension, and foot control. I personally run 680ish whp on a manual ess car, i hardly have issues with traction. That is with track mode and advance trac off. Now, if we are only doing 55mph, even a mustangs stock hp can be argued to be too much, so of course the argument is valid but also majority of us boosted coyotes will majority of the time drive tame, highway legal speeds, and then here and there find a empty road to blast 100+mph safely. For some its not worth, to me its totally worth to feel it even once a week as it is so fun and a unique feeling to be the driver of such a car.

personally the closest drag or track strip near me is over 2 hours away so its not the most viable option for me in NY, so i do often blast it on public roads, but half of todays cars are too fast for 55mph law anyways. Gotta risk it for the buscuit sometimes, and always be careful and keep safety of others and yourself in mind

 

[DAVECS1]

I use a fair bit of that power on the track, and really appreciate it.

 

[SheepDog]

For me, it's more about the journey, than the destination...

I think I enjoy the wrenching, the customization, the "figuring things out" aspect even more than driving the damn thing.

I also consider what other cars I could have bought (including the amount of money I have thrown into this pit) that provide this level of performance, style, sound, manual transmission, and the answer is - there aren't any. I'd have to spend 2x or 3x what I have into this car, to get the same level of performance, and they still wouldn't have a manual, or sound like a pissed off Rhino thrashing a hyena, or have my personal stamp on it.

Any time I'm considering buying a car, I start investigating what support the aftermarket has for it, and what the platform is capable of. In this case, the S550 and the Coyote have nearly endless options, and the Coyote is one of the most capable and forgiving factory powerplants at any price point.

Sure, I could have bought a new BMW M3, or a ZL1 Camaro, neither of which have the potential that these Mustangs do from the factory. Yeah, you can go 10/10th's with anything but now your right back where you started - Modding and struggling and modding more to fix the previous mod etc.

If you just want to go fast from stoplight to stoplight, buy a Model 3 performance or a Hyundai Ionic 5 N.

Is it worth it? You bet your sweet ass it is. You can't take the money or the car with you when you check out - Enjoy the drive.

 

[ENDEVR]

ESS G2 on the largest 125mm pulley (~7 psi). Mine is a 6MT with 3.55 gears. Haven't gotten it dynoed yet but I'm thinking low 600s after going catless

All you need with the kit fueling wise is a boost a bump and GT500 injectors.

How do you like this setup? It’s the exact setup I’m going with soon, does it feel stronger through the whole rev range or do you really have to rev it up to get moving?
I’ve thought about PD but I love the high revving nature of the coyote and I figured with everything I’ve read that a centri would just make me love it even more lol

 

[stannypack]

How do you like this setup? It’s the exact setup I’m going with soon, does it feel stronger through the whole rev range or do you really have to rev it up to get moving?
I’ve thought about PD but I love the high revving nature of the coyote and I figured with everything I’ve read that a centri would just make me love it even more lol

Whole powerband is moved up, I noticed it immediately after the kit was installed cruising around stoplight to stoplight keeping it under 4k felt faster. I always roll into WOT and it feels like a rocket above 4k

 

[tosha]

I see alot of the negative concensus is regret because they wont use the power. Though a valid point, i would like to bring up that it is still usable power to have 700whp on the street with a good gear ratio, power curve, tire, suspension, and foot control

At least for me, it's not for the lack of opportunities. I typically do 20+ track days per season, where I can push it to 160mph lap after lap after lap until I run out of tires and energy. The problem #1 is that after that experience, I have no interest to do 100mph straight pull on a highway that lasts 2 seconds or something, it's just boring and risks are too much for me personally. Problem #2 is that the car is now is too heavy for track driving, it would overheat if I really push it, and I don't have enough mechanical confidence in it. So now I have another track car, that is much slower and lighter, cheaper to run and more fun at the end of day.

So yeah, I'd rather have a NA mustang now that doesn't turn into a teleporter device every time I floor it, and I actually have more time to rev it out through the gears. But then I drive it and I still love it . Go figure...

 

[bayguy]

Zero regrets. Power is there if I want it, otherwise its the same as before.

 

[HKusp]

Your poll didn't have a choice that fit my experience. I have had issues since a few weeks after installation and the installation I did mostly on my own and it was a HUGE PIA. Less than 2 months after the install, I broke a ring land and had to rebuild the engine. After a long time getting that all together I have had one thing after another with timing issues, , even though I replaced all the timing components with Motorcraft and Ford Racing parts, Vengeance Stage2 clutch failed, now I am on their Stage 3. The car has been down almost as much as it has been running, and it currently has been down since the 2nd week in January with a low oil pressure issue as well as an unusual sound coming from the passenger side head that sounds like an exhaust leak. That being said, when it's running right, it is an absolute BLAST. I enjoy driving it very very much. We're going to crack into it again in a about 10 days and see what we have to do.

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