Another broken Voodoo

[Epiphany]

How so? How many engines have failed? SMH

Don't shake too hard or your foil hat may fall off.

What you see on this forum is not the extent to which major engine problems have occurred.

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[Praehotec]

Don't shake too hard or your foil hat may fall off.

What you see on this forum is not the extent to which major engine problems have occurred.

Exactly how many have failed? No one but Ford knows.

In all seriousness though, Ford (and all car companies) need to treat their customers well, especially those purchasing high-end halo vehicles like this one.

When did the mentality in corporate America shift from, "the customer is always right," and trying to keep customers happy for repeat business and good word of mouth to trying to do as little as possible for anyone to maximize short-term profits?

At the end of the day, providing a service/good is the purpose of a business, not making money.

Edit: nothing against Ford personally, as I have never had a bad run-in with them, but my family has had a horrible time with a lemon from Subaru.

 

[NipSC4328]

At the end of the day, providing a service/good is the purpose of a business, not making money.

I must respectfully disagree. The purpose of any "for profit" business IS to make money. This is accomplished by providing a wanted product or service and the better you are at customer service the more profitable you will be.

Try running a business that doesn't make money ... see how long it lasts. :headbonk:

 

[superman07]

Tin foil going on now, If they were closing out 2016s and prepping the supply chain for the 2017s, and had a bit of an unexpected rise in engine failures they might be hard pressed to get the replacement in right away. All it takes if for one important piece to be on BO. If its possible they might not want to disclose that they have got into this situation. I just cant see anything else that would take 30 days plus to get a long block or motor to the dealer. Maybe they also need to send specific techs for the work and they are booked up? It just seems like if Ford could, they would handle this faster. The simplest reason is usually the best though. I don't think Ford wants a pissed off owner nor the clickbait the threads will generate.

 

[Voodooo]

The gt350 at Mathews ford where I seen this car and started this thread, will have a brand new long block Friday. That will be a week total since the car arrived to the dealer. So I'm told.

 

[superman07]

wonder why they seem to be screwing derp

 

[Voodooo]

wonder why they seem to be screwing derp

No idea

 

[MAV]

Exactly how many have failed? No one but Ford knows.

Actually, we can guess by just the numbers on this forum. If I count correctly, four engines have been known in these parts to have problems. If you use the registry thread count of 193 know cars delivered, that's a failure rate of just over 2%. Assuming these numbers constitute a valid statistical sample, we can extrapolate at least 110 engines have or will fail early in the approximate 5500 2016 GT350s built (including R models).

Anybody know how that stacks up to expected failure rates in other makes/models of vehicles?

 

[Voodooo]

I'm only aware of 2 engines on this forum.

 

[krt22]

Actually, we can guess by just the numbers on this forum. If I count correctly, four engines have been known in these parts to have problems. If you use the registry thread count of 193 know cars delivered, that's a failure rate of just over 2%. Assuming these numbers constitute a valid statistical sample, we can extrapolate at least 110 engines have or will fail early in the approximate 5500 2016 GT350s built (including R models).

I don't think we can make any of these assumptions, especially since those with issues tend to be most vocal on car forums.

That and 193 out of 4000+ or so cars isnt a sufficient sample size

 

[Voodooo]

I don't think we can make any of these assumptions, especially since those with issues tend to be most vocal on car forums.

That and 193 out of 4000+ or so cars isnt a sufficient sample size

Do you mean 193 out of 4000 isn't bad?

 

[krt22]

He used 193 as the sample size to compare to the entire production run, not enough when 4000+ cars will be made, at least not with a decent margin of error

 

[MAV]

So what's an acceptable sample size?

 

[Voodooo]

He used 193 as the sample size to compare to the entire production run, not enough when 4000+ cars will be made, at least not with a decent margin of error

If 4000 voodoos are made and 193 failed I'd call that a disappointment

 

[krt22]

Thats not what he is saying, he is using 4 failed motors out of 193 known registered cars here to form a basis what might occur over the entire run. But you are right, 193 would be a lot.

Im saying 193 isnt large enough of a sample size for it to be a reasonably accurate, needs to be 350 or so for basic statistical sampling error margins and confidence levels. However those basic statistics are also a bit convoluted when it comes to complicated assemblies

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