2016 Camaro Official Specs!!!

[ForTehNguyen]

$300 is a steal of a price. Even local guys that do side work want $500-600 around these parts. I guess it depends on the car but something like a B7 RS4, it actually takes an entire day to do it. Its really tedious work. I hate DI with a passion and I just get annoyed when its added for no reason. Like I said the only really benefit I see is a few extra MPGs. At the end of the day people aren't buying mustang GTs based on its gas mileage ratings.

DI injects during compression and cools the air/fuel mixture, reducing the chance of detonation, and this allows you to increase the compression ratio over a non DI engine. DI allows engines like the 991 GT3 have near 13.0:1 CR. Same reasoning why DI is especially used on the newer turbocharged engines. Boost, like CR, can be increased to a higher ceiling before detonation. Carbon buildup isnt an issue if you have a port injector too like the Lexus 3.5 and 5.0 engines have.

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[ForTehNguyen]

$300 is a steal of a price. Even local guys that do side work want $500-600 around these parts. I guess it depends on the car but something like a B7 RS4, it actually takes an entire day to do it. Its really tedious work. I hate DI with a passion and I just get annoyed when its added for no reason. Like I said the only really benefit I see is a few extra MPGs. At the end of the day people aren't buying mustang GTs based on its gas mileage ratings.

DI injects during compression and cools the air/fuel mixture, reducing the chance for detonation, and this allows you to increase the compression ratio over a non DI engine. DI allows engines like the 991 GT3 can have near 13.0:1 CR. The previous 911 GT3 had 12.2:1. Same reasoning why DI is especially used on the newer turbocharged engines. Boost, like CR, can be further increased. Carbon buildup isnt an issue if you have a port injector too like the Lexus 3.5 and 5.0 engines have.

 

[stage3s4]

DI injects during compression and cools the air/fuel mixture, reducing the chance for detonation, and this allows you to increase the compression ratio over a non DI engine. DI allows engines like the 991 GT3 can have near 13.0:1 CR. The previous 911 GT3 had 12.2:1. Same reasoning why DI is especially used on the newer turbocharged engines. Boost, like CR, can be further increased. Carbon buildup isnt an issue if you have a port injector too like the Lexus 3.5 and 5.0 engines have.

I disagree with a lot of this. I have been tuning DI turbo Audis/VWs for the last 5 years and it doesn't do anything for allowing more boost/timing compared to port injection cars. Car companies loving using it on turbo cars because they make motors produce 350HP but still get 30MPG. Porsche is another story and not typical of course. Cant really compare a $150K GT3 to a mustang GT. Yea the added benefit of cooling cylinder temps is great but not worth the trouble in my opinion. Its not like adding DI to the 5.0 coyote will magically make it put out 480HP. Anyone looking to run e85 can forget it on DI cars. Its not practical for people looking to make power for cheap. Like I said its good for stock cars and people that dont care about modding. Plenty of 600-700whp blown 5.0s out there using port injection. Its proven to work and make big power reliably. I see no reason to change from that.

I have also said that port injection in conjunction with direct injection would help deal with the carbon buildup (carbon build is an issue its not really debatable). But at the point why even bother with the DI? 2 systems to upgrade and maintain.

 

[mustang_guy]

I hate di. I think it was one of the worst thing to come ro automobiles

 

[Kbreese]

Back on the topic of the new Camaro vs the S550, I think I kinda changed my mind. Overall I still like the mustang better. You can get X-pricing which is great and overall it just has a better look that ages much better. I remember when the new Camaro first came out a few years back going on to the build and price thinking man this car is so awesome. Now when I see them on the streets I am always just like eh. Just something about the way they look is boring and not classy in a way. It's hard to explain but to me Mustangs just have more of classic and quality look to them, whereas the Camaro seems more toy-ish? And the heritage of the mustang is better too IMO. With all that said, I still think the new Camaro is an impressive muscle car, no doubt.

 

[Asharus]

there's no question that the mustang looks better. i favor performance over looks though.

but there were some very good points that were brought to my attention. the fact that the LT1 is direct injection and the pitfalls of DI, such as carbon buildup is the #1 thing that had me rethink the whole thing.

i guess the GTPP really is the best bang for buck out there, even with the 6g camaro around. thanks to this thread i can sleep like a baby at night again.

 

[Vernichtung]

there's no question that the mustang looks better. i favor performance over looks though.

but there were some very good points that were brought to my attention. the fact that the LT1 is direct injection and the pitfalls of DI, such as carbon buildup is the #1 thing that had me rethink the whole thing.

i guess the GTPP really is the best bang for buck out there, even with the 6g camaro around. thanks to this thread i can sleep like a baby at night again.

I agree. Further, there are still a lot of unknowns; weight being paramount for me. I know what GM's figures say, but I'm interested in seeing what a fully-decked-out Camaro SS weighs. Something tells me it's going to be right where a similarly-equipped S550 Mustang tips the scales at. I also watched a video today showing a 2016 Camaro SS (and current Z28) on the Nürburgring; the Alpha-based Camaro definitely doesn't look like the buttoned-down world beater most are making it out to be, in my opinion. There is a whole lot of leaning going on...

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[Kbreese]

I watched a few youtube video's and I'll say the car sounds awesome with that quad exhaust, but I am iffy on the looks. It's just so beefy...the height of the area above the top of the wheel well both front and back is big...and overall it kinda looks like a fat pig. It's not ugly or anything, but I don't know, I go back and forth with it.

 

[thePill]

I agree. Further, there are still a lot of unknowns; weight being paramount for me. I know what GM's figures say, but I'm interested in seeing what a fully-decked-out Camaro SS weighs. Something tells me it's going to be right where a similarly-equipped S550 Mustang tips the scales at. I also watched a video today showing a 2016 Camaro SS (and current Z28) on the Nürburgring; the Alpha-based Camaro definitely doesn't look like the buttoned-down world beater most are making it out to be, in my opinion. There is a whole lot of leaning going on...

That is true but...


The guys said the track was off and on wet and had puddle collection here and there. They did say the car was still very splashy but this is typical in very early development.

My guys didn't hear a supercharger but I didn't hear a supercharger either when I went to see the 2013 GT500 run there. However, a second photographer did capture noise so, there is at least one LT4 Camaro there.

They didn't observe ZL1 or z28 competitive times. There may be some explaination... The Ring has implemented some speed limits, even during testing. And, the track was damp in many areas (rain confirmed).




We are hoping a "Hi Output" Mustang is on its way to the port.



We are hoping they come through Bremerhaven, unless the car has been in Koln the whole time.

 

[thePill]

Yes, I have people at Bremerhaven...


I was NCOIC of Vehicle Transport in Germany...

 

[Vernichtung]

That is true but...


The guys said the track was off and on wet and had puddle collection here and there. They did say the car was still very splashy but this is typical in very early development.

My guys didn't hear a supercharger but I didn't hear a supercharger either when I went to see the 2013 GT500 run there. However, a second photographer did capture noise so, there is at least one LT4 Camaro there.

They didn't observe ZL1 or z28 competitive times. There may be some explaination... The Ring has implemented some speed limits, even during testing. And, the track was damp in many areas (rain confirmed).




We are hoping a "Hi Output" Mustang is on its way to the port.



We are hoping they come through Bremerhaven, unless the car has been in Koln the whole time.

The video I posted shows a current-generation Camaro Z28 and a 2016 Camaro SS running laps at the Nürburgring. There is no test ZL1 vehicle anywhere in said YouTube clip.

 

[thePill]

The video I posted shows a current-generation Camaro Z28 and a 2016 Camaro SS running laps at the Nürburgring. There is no test ZL1 vehicle anywhere in said YouTube clip.

Ah, you must have missed the new video. I'll try and find it...

 

[thePill]

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[Vernichtung]

I saw that one. Thanks for posting it, though. The ZL1 definitely looks like the better handler when compared to the wobbly 2016 Camaro SS shown in the video I posted. My point was that, for a car that's supposed to outperform the vaunted 1LE, the new Camaro looks to be anything but sure-footed around the 'Ring. That could mean that Chevy is testing different suspension combinations other than what they'll ultimately go to production with, I suppose.

As an aside, the "mesh" pattern of the ZL1's grille looks terrible!

 

[thePill]

I saw that one. Thanks for posting it, though. The ZL1 definitely looks like the better handler when compared to the wobbly 2016 Camaro SS shown in the video I posted. My point was that, for a car that's supposed to outperform the vaunted 1LE, the new Camaro looks to be anything but sure-footed around the 'Ring. That could mean that Chevy is testing different suspension combinations other than what they'll ultimately go to production with, I suppose.

As an aside, the "mesh" pattern of the ZL1's grille looks terrible!

Ah yes, agree...

The SS needs help if it intends on bucking a 1LE.

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