Camaro fanboy dilemma...

[garagelogic]

I must admit I really hate when people cut my posts.

I'm torn between this being a lack of respect and/or admitting what was cut was right and that you can't admit it so prefer to forget it

Sorry, but it's the only part of your post I felt merited a response. The rest of your commentary is just Kum-bah-yah drivel.

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[DiMaio90]

The reason I kinda disagree with Christmas or DDay as an example in defense of the Camaro 45th "Anniversary" is that December 25th and June 6th happen every year. The camaro was not manufactured every year.

But then again, if you think of a 45th anniversary camaro as really just recognition that 45 years prior the first camaro was manufactured then it's not that bad. Either way it's not worth arguing about in my opinion.

 

[Boss Man]

Where Ford really put the beat down on Chevy was the sticker price, 75k vs 56k for gt350 pp. It will be interesting to see how Chevy counters the non R, or, if they can. GT350 seems to be in a league of its own at is price point.

 

[Sturmler]

Sorry, but it's the only part of your post I felt merited a response. The rest of your commentary is just Kum-bah-yah drivel.

Cutting post was a lack of respect, and so is this answer. Sad people can't have enough education to just talk without being rude.

 

[Sturmler]

The Tour de France committee wasn't the democratically elected group of individuals tasked with determining what is and what isn't an anniversary, so I'm not sure what they have to do with this. Likewise, I'm not sure what Christmas has to do with this discussion as I've never seen someone actually put an anniversary number on such an occasion. As far as Pearl Harbor goes, the anniversary is the yearly memorials held in remembrance of that attack and not of the attack itself.

Your opinions on certain years of the Mustang heritage don't matter as they sold enough units to justify a continuation of production - in other words enough of the public liked it to buy it. The Camaro didn't. It failed. I'm not sure why people should celebrate failure. I'm with garagelogic, it's a bit like celebrating a marriage that failed for nearly a decade. Yea, you're remarried now and that's cool, but you weren't married for 45 years.

I'd laugh my ass off if Ford decided to re-introduce a 2018 Model T and call it the 110th anniversary as would most everyone else. That'd be lame as hell. The same goes for the Camaro.

Well, At least you will admit that if the Tour de France isn't a benchmark, you're not either!

Again, 45th anniversary celebrating 45years of continuous production is YOUR interpretation of the 45th edition.

Chevy NEVER said it was meant to celebrate 45 years of continuous production! Chevy meant to make a model celebrating the fact the first Camaro was born 45 years from the new model.

is that such a big deal? If Ford launches a XXX years model T anniversary edition, they'd be legit doing this. Again, God never told human beings to celebrate "car anniversaries" only for continuous production cars!

Honestly guys, this conversation is, again, only about wanting to bother / humiliate / attack a forum member who has a different view than yours. You're just trying to find any small point to laugh at him.

I feel like the only people going down here are those trying to use some lame 40th commercial sticker to drag someone down.

Regarding discontinuation of the Camaro, that's a point of strategy from Chevy people. They could have done a new generation that would have maybe sold like hot cakes. At that time, they decided their overall strategy wasn't about a pony car. That's a strategy / commercial choice. It's not like if the car was stopped 6th month after the new gen was launched. It was about not making a new gen after like 9years of selling this one.

Ford has taken another choice. Well, is that so important? I mean, is the 16 Camaro a bad car because of that? Is the Mustang a good car because of that?

i'm a true american cars lover. I love the way americans engineer their cars, I love the way they are built. i really don't understand how american people could throw so many dirt at other americans, at their jobs, at the product of their hard work.

This anti-Chevrolet rant is so un-patriotic, so un-american. Some people here should be ashamed of wishing a Chevrolet fail, meaning jobs lost, people unemployed, families destroyed and so on ...

Just love your brothers and your country, just make that wish, that both Chevrolet and Ford, Camaro and Mustang may sell big, may be huge success and make the part of american jobs increase into the car industry.

 

[classicrockr]

Where Ford really put the beat down on Chevy was the sticker price, 75k vs 56k for gt350 pp. It will be interesting to see how Chevy counters the non R, or, if they can. GT350 seems to be in a league of its own at is price point.

Agreed. It will definitely be interesting to see if Chevy steps up.

 

[Todd15Fastback]

Well, At least you will admit that if the Tour de France isn't a benchmark, you're not either!

Again, 45th anniversary celebrating 45years of continuous production is YOUR interpretation of the 45th edition.

Chevy NEVER said it was meant to celebrate 45 years of continuous production! Chevy meant to make a model celebrating the fact the first Camaro was born 45 years from the new model.

is that such a big deal? If Ford launches a XXX years model T anniversary edition, they'd be legit doing this. Again, God never told human beings to celebrate "car anniversaries" only for continuous production cars!

Honestly guys, this conversation is, again, only about wanting to bother / humiliate / attack a forum member who has a different view than yours. You're just trying to find any small point to laugh at him.

I feel like the only people going down here are those trying to use some lame 40th commercial sticker to drag someone down.

Regarding discontinuation of the Camaro, that's a point of strategy from Chevy people. They could have done a new generation that would have maybe sold like hot cakes. At that time, they decided their overall strategy wasn't about a pony car. That's a strategy / commercial choice. It's not like if the car was stopped 6th month after the new gen was launched. It was about not making a new gen after like 9years of selling this one.

Ford has taken another choice. Well, is that so important? I mean, is the 16 Camaro a bad car because of that? Is the Mustang a good car because of that?

i'm a true american cars lover. I love the way americans engineer their cars, I love the way they are built. i really don't understand how american people could throw so many dirt at other americans, at their jobs, at the product of their hard work.

This anti-Chevrolet rant is so un-patriotic, so un-american. Some people here should be ashamed of wishing a Chevrolet fail, meaning jobs lost, people unemployed, families destroyed and so on ...

Just love your brothers and your country, just make that wish, that both Chevrolet and Ford, Camaro and Mustang may sell big, may be huge success and make the part of american jobs increase into the car industry.

ummmmm...you realize the Ford vs. Chevy quibble has been going on for decades, right? Just like the Yankees vs. Boston Red Sox hate. It comes with the territory.

Who has said they wish GM failure and their employees? I certainly don't wish that. I just won't give GM any money, except when buying a Corvette.

 

[SVTFreak]

It was, sir. But the "45th" was meant to commemorate the number of years since the first car, not total production years. So in that aspect, there certainly can be a 45th.

Seriously? Wow.

 

[SVTFreak]

I'm sorry but I'm afraid the definition of the word "anniversary" has nothing to do with "continuation":

For example:

2. A date that follows a certain event by a specified amount of time



Practical example: the Tour de France 2013 was called the "Tour of the centenary" despite the fact no Tour de France happened from 1915 to 1918 and from 1940 to 1946 (Tour de France was created in 1903)



Other examples: we celebrate on Christmas the birth of Jesus Chirst despite the fact he is dead, we celebrate every year the anniversary of Peral Harbor despite the fact the attack and the war are over ...



An anniversary is the annual celebration of an event. That event can be the creation of a car, of a brand, even if there was no continuation.



Thus, the Camaro can have a 45th anniversary on its 37th year of production.



Moreover, I'd say some Mustang generations were such a shame (pinto?) that maybe it would have been better to have no continuation than such horrible cars in the historical lineup

Show me a 45th anniversary Camaro then.

Funny you mention the vette. Go buy yourself a 1982 vette then. You can't. There is only one. Even vette fans say it's cheating. Mustang is the only car you can get 50 cars, one for each year made, realistically. So what some sucked. Ever drive an early 80's vette?

Are you so die hard Camaro that you compare the first year of one to Jesus and Pearl Harbor? Interesting...

 

[thePill]

If I was married for 37 years, then divorced my wife, only to get remarried 7 years later, would my next anniversary be my 45th? I don't think so. It might be the 45th year since the first time I married my wife, but we certainly cannot honestly tell anyone we have been married for 45 years. I get that Camaro fans need something to feel good about, but pretending like the car has been around, continuously, since 1967 is disingenuous, if not plain dishonest.

Anniversary, from the Latin adjective anniversarius ‎(“returning yearly”), from vertere ‎(“to turn”), + annus ‎(“year”).

The Camaro did NOT return yearly for 45 years. There is no debate.

BAM!!!


What was Lightning McQueen's nickname in Cars?







Stickers...


...and this guy spent like $10,000 on them...

 

[flaps]

I'm sorry but I'm afraid the definition of the word "anniversary" has nothing to do with "continuation":
For example:
2. A date that follows a certain event by a specified amount of time

Practical example: the Tour de France 2013 was called the "Tour of the centenary" despite the fact no Tour de France happened from 1915 to 1918 and from 1940 to 1946 (Tour de France was created in 1903)

Other examples: we celebrate on Christmas the birth of Jesus Chirst despite the fact he is dead, we celebrate every year the anniversary of Peral Harbor despite the fact the attack and the war are over ...

An anniversary is the annual celebration of an event. That event can be the creation of a car, of a brand, even if there was no continuation.

Thus, the Camaro can have a 45th anniversary on its 37th year of production.

Moreover, I'd say some Mustang generations were such a shame (pinto?) that maybe it would have been better to have no continuation than such horrible cars in the historical lineup

Lol the 2013 Tour de France was 110 years after the first Tour de France in 1903. They called it the "Tour of the centenary" because it was the 100th running of the event. They did not count the 10 years that were cancelled because of WW1 and WW2. Way to disprove your own point.

 

[thePill]

I must admit I really hate when people cut my posts.

I'm torn between this being a lack of respect and/or admitting what was cut was right and that you can't admit it so prefer to forget it

When I said you are welcome here on a clean slate, that didn't mean immediately return and dirty the slate again...

I don't care about your vinyl investment, offering an anniversary model the way they did is the lowest form of sack sucking I've even seen. First, stickers are out... second, you bought a false anniversary car. They are celebrating what exactly?

45 years of in and out production, failed sales and not keeping up with the drivetrain advancements... and no, a Pushrod is not advancing...

 

[thePill]

The definition of "Un-American" would be moving to Canada and giving up when they are down and out.


How many American enthusiast did they abandon for the all mighty dollar?


Now they decided, hey, the Camaro is American... because now they found out how to profit from you people again... Selling fuck@n' stickers...

 

[garagelogic]

Cutting post was a lack of respect, and so is this answer. Sad people can't have enough education to just talk without being rude.

You really don't want to go there. Just walk away now before you get in over your head. I'm will to bet my level of education exceeds what you seem to think it is.

Here's a novel idea, why don't you do some research on your own about the topics being discussed and then add your commentary to the discourse. Based on what you've posted on this board thus far, it's fairly obvious you know little about the subjects at-hand and simply regurgitate things other people have said on other message boards, trolling for a particular reaction.

 

[classicrockr]

When I said you are welcome here on a clean slate, that didn't mean immediately return and dirty the slate again...

I don't care about your vinyl investment, offering an anniversary model the way they did is the lowest form of sack sucking I've even seen. First, stickers are out... second, you bought a false anniversary car. They are celebrating what exactly?

45 years of in and out production, failed sales and not keeping up with the drivetrain advancements... and no, a Pushrod is not advancing...

Like you're some auto god that controls all free speech? More like a spoiled kid that ain't happy unless he gets his way all the time.

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