GT 350 brakes

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Doesn't it come with brembo 6 piston front and 4 piston rear brakes? That's some mighty stopping power. Will have to to see if the car can handle the track without the Track pack. SS lines, brake fluid etc....

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[TraKWeapon]

With a factory 15.5" front brake set up, you're going to have to use 19" wheels. There isn't a big selection for 18" wheels that'll even fit 15" brakes. The GT350R-C uses the 15" brakes likely for that reason and also because race calipers are generally able to handle heat better ( I.e. No piston dust boots) and they need to use a 4-piston, since 6-Pistons aren't allowed.

That's correct and why I stated race Brembos. Nobody in CTSCC GS is using stock street calipers up front because the front pads aren't thick enough to last a 2.5 hour race. The race Brembos use approximately 25mm thick pads while the street Brembos use approximately 15mm pads.

 

[FTD]

What kind of pads do you prefer? Do you do race only pads?

I would consider swapping back and forth having an extra set of pads and rotors bedded together that I use for track days. Any advantage to that?

I'll likely start with Carbotech XP10's if they fit. I don't think 12's will be needed. While other people I have met at HPDE's switch pads at the events, I have not. I'm too lazy and drowsy early in the morning. There are a lot of streetable options out there, it all depends on your braking preferences.

 

[Stig'sBaldBrother]

I've been running Carbotechs XP-12s as well on my 03 Cobra track car and plan on running them for the first track event, along with a fluid change.

Cheap insurance to prevent running out of brakes in my brand new, $60k car.

 

[Trackaholic]

On my 350Z I have a Stoptech four piston 13" Front BBK and the stock rear brakes.

I use Performance Friction PFC 97 or PFC 01 for the track (prefer the 97 slightly, but have been happy with both), and Stoptech pads for the street. On the rear I use the Stoptech pads on both street and track.

For the GT350 I will stay OEM for several track days, and see how things hold up. I am a little leery about the design of the rotors, and don't really know why Ford has done something different that most two-piece setups. Is their approach actually better, or is it simply cheaper? I also wonder what the caliper design is like.

I suspect that I won't need to do much except maybe pads and fluid. If I am not feeling confident about the brakes, I don't have a problem going to a nice kit, but with the work Ford seems to have done on these I am hopeful that no major changes would be required.

-T

 

[Hack]

On my 350Z I have a Stoptech four piston 13" Front BBK and the stock rear brakes.

I use Performance Friction PFC 97 or PFC 01 for the track (prefer the 97 slightly, but have been happy with both), and Stoptech pads for the street. On the rear I use the Stoptech pads on both street and track.

For the GT350 I will stay OEM for several track days, and see how things hold up. I am a little leery about the design of the rotors, and don't really know why Ford has done something different that most two-piece setups. Is their approach actually better, or is it simply cheaper? I also wonder what the caliper design is like.

I suspect that I won't need to do much except maybe pads and fluid. If I am not feeling confident about the brakes, I don't have a problem going to a nice kit, but with the work Ford seems to have done on these I am hopeful that no major changes would be required.

-T

Makes sense staying OEM, then inspect and see how things look. I know I am very paranoid about losing my brakes, so I tend to look at them during the day a few times while at the track as well.

 

[TraKWeapon]

If you're going to be pushing your GT350 I suspect you'll be upgrading pads to your favorite track pads. I've been using Pagid RS29 F and RS56 R for the past two seasons with good success. They are not as aggressive at Hawk DTC 70's but they won't eat your rotors alive either. The Pagid compounds I'm using have won LeMans and last fairly long. Their unique property and the reason I like them is they don't make much noise. I use them on the track and street and no longer swap back and forth between street and track pads. :cheers:

 

[Carguy68]

some pics for reference

 

[sgrinavi]

I would bet that I could make the brakes fade with DOT 3 fluid on a hot day @ Sebring running back to back sessions -

I'd upgrade the fluid and flush it frequently - do some upgraded pads, Nothing too aggressive though, I'd rather not eat up rotors. I'd probably start with the same Hawk HP Plus that I use on DE day vette and see how well those work

 

[Hack]

If you're going to be pushing your GT350 I suspect you'll be upgrading pads to your favorite track pads. I've been using Pagid RS29 F and RS56 R for the past two seasons with good success. They are not as aggressive at Hawk DTC 70's but they won't eat your rotors alive either. The Pagid compounds I'm using have won LeMans and last fairly long. Their unique property and the reason I like them is they don't make much noise. I use them on the track and street and no longer swap back and forth between street and track pads. :cheers:

I would bet that I could make the brakes fade with DOT 3 fluid on a hot day @ Sebring running back to back sessions -

I'd upgrade the fluid and flush it frequently - do some upgraded pads, Nothing too aggressive though, I'd rather not eat up rotors. I'd probably start with the same Hawk HP Plus that I use on DE day vette and see how well those work

Interesting point about rotor life. Can you share what results you've seen in the past WRT rotor life with racing pads?

 

[Todd15Fastback]

Those 6pot fronts look very similar to the GTPP 6 pot's. Wonder how much of a difference there is?

 

[krt22]

Likely not a huge difference, but does the GTPP have floating rotors?

I did the googling...the GT350 calipers look beefier (not as much material removal around the pistons and a larger pad surface) and the GTPP does not have the floating rotors.

 

[Glenn G]

I've boiled my brake fluid on the track, I was fortunate to have it happen at the end of a braking zone and was able to stay on the track. Was my fault as I didn't think it needed it.

I religiously flush the brakes before a track day now with 5.1, doesn't matter the size of your brakes if your fluid is water contaminated and boils.

 

[sgrinavi]

Interesting point about rotor life. Can you share what results you've seen in the past WRT rotor life with racing pads?

My first season out I used the stock C6 calipers, changed fluid and put a set of Carbotech XP12s I ran through the rotors and pads in two track days. Thinking it was the stock rotor I replace the rotors with an upgraded slotted stoptech and went with the XP10's - -same shit, two days.

Next time, same rotors and hawk race pads, I forget which ones I used. They lasted 4 track days. Then against everyone's advice I tried out a set of the HP Plus on slotted rotors, the pads lasted 6 track days and didn't wear out rotors.

I switched up to the Z06 brakes, again, against all advice, I used the stock rotors with HP Plus pad - the fronts lasted 8 track days, rears are still on after 13 days. I switched the front rotors to the DB400's and they actually wore out faster than my stock ones did.

Now I have the Stoptech slotted fronts with HP Plus pads, same old stock rear rotors with the same set of HP Plus pads I put on when I upgraded my brakes.

I do notice some fade at the end of a long session, but not enough for me to bring the car in by a long shot.

 

[morjo02]

does anyone know if you can change the brake calipers color on the GT350R from the standard color of Black to Red ???? If yes, can you share on how? is there a special order number for the change

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