BBQ Tick After Oil Change...

[GT Pony]

I was going to change it myself as really my last two dealer oil changes have been botched. Options and what to do?

My plan is to do my own oil change at around 2500 miles. Using a Motorcraft FL-500S oil filter and Motorcraft 5W-20 synthetic blend oil. Will let the oil drain just long enough until it's a slow drip, then install the new filter and install the drain plug and fill it back up. Not going to let the oil drain over night like I usually do on my vehicles, since I don't want to take a chance of the hydraulic lifters bleeding down, which could be the cause of the "tick after oil change". Don't know what else you can do. :shrug:

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[astolt12]

I'm going to change the oil to a syn blend when I get her back tomorrow. To my knowledge they went full synthetic on the change.

I don't have a warm and fuzzy feeling on this, but I'm hoping to drive a solution myself with basic fixes . I wish ford wanted to make this right.

 

[GT Pony]

I'm going to change the oil to a syn blend when I get her back tomorrow. To my knowledge they went full synthetic on the change.

I don't have a warm and fuzzy feeling on this, but I'm hoping to drive a solution myself with basic fixes . I wish ford wanted to make this right.

It would be interesting to see if going back to the 5W-20 synthetic blend makes a difference. It very well could be that the full synthetic is a little thinner when hot, and that caused the ticking. Might even try using a 5W-30 synthetic blend or full synthetic to see if the the thicker oil when hot cures the the hot tick.

 

[astolt12]

It would be interesting to see if going back to the 5W-20 synthetic blend makes a difference. It very well could be that the full synthetic is a little thinner when hot, and that caused the ticking. Might even try using a 5W-30 synthetic blend or full synthetic to see if the the thicker oil when hot cures the the hot tick.

Thats what I am hoping. i found this old post from 2011 which shows the exact same problem I am having with the exact same replication except that his is an S197 and doesn't do it cold. See here.

They used this additive "XL-17" which masked the sound enough for the customer to shut up and then it resurfaced later. This tells me Ford knows what the problem is but continue to say this is normal because they honestly do not know how to fix it 5 years later.

I've already been in contact with some good friends who have been practicing law for some time to explore what options I have to remedy Ford's mistake.

All inputs are appreciated at this point. Pains me because I love this car and do not want to buy a Camaro.

 

[GT Pony]

Thats what I am hoping. i found this old post from 2011 which shows the exact same problem I am having with the exact same replication except that his is an S197 and doesn't do it cold. See here.

Following other links within the link you posted came up with this thread ... see Post #12. But I would certainly hope that Ford had the tensioners ironed out by the 2015 model year Coyote engines.

http://www.allfordmustangs.com/forums/2011-2014-mustang-talk/487953-2013-5-0-engine-noise.html

 

[Tim Hilliard]

So Ford say's it's normal. They give you an extra warranty, have documented the concerns. I'm just thinking you lucked out. Anything happens you get another engine. You have free range. Enjoy it.

Stupid me, I beat the piss out of my car the second it left the dealers lot, kept the factory oil in it for 6 months, beat the piss out of it on a road course than demanded the dealer change it with factory oil (Blend). I am so disappointed I don't have a tick, oil consumption or a lack of power. I'll just be standing over here after being called out on this forum several times for my opinion on engine break-in and maint. The best part is if I manage to blow up my car at some point, it will likely be covered, because I use it in the designed purpose of the car, no tuners, just lots of smiles.

 

[GT Pony]

Another interesting thread started by the same guy who started the other one. Notice Ford is recommending thicker oil. If my car starts ticking I'm going to switch to 5W-30 and see what it does. Since this tick is only when hot, and based on these old threads it sounds like 5W-20 just gets too thin when hot for these Coyote engines. The only reason Ford recommends 5W-20 is because it helps them meet the fleet gas mileage requirements.

http://www.allfordmustangs.com/foru...ng-5-0-engine-problems-again.html#post2211962

Look at Post #4:
http://www.allfordmustangs.com/foru...ng-5-0-engine-problems-again.html#post2212277

 

[GT Pony]

Stupid me, I beat the piss out of my car the second it left the dealers lot, kept the factory oil in it for 6 months, beat the piss out of it on a road course than demanded the dealer change it with factory oil (Blend). I am so disappointed I don't have a tick, oil consumption or a lack of power. I'll just be standing over here after being called out on this forum several times for my opinion on engine break-in and maint.

There are probably a few guys who did basically the same thing you did, but they have the tick and you don't. We all know not every engine is identical due to manufacturing tolerances and QA along the line.

I think it would be very interesting for someone who has the tick to switch to a 5W-30 synthetic blend (that meets the Ford spec) and see if that makes the tick go away. Since these engines don't tick until they are fully hot, my suspicion is 5W-20 is just too thin when at full operating temperature. Running 5W-30 isn't going to hurt anything ... and will probably help reduce or cure the ticking IMO.

 

[Todd15Fastback]

So Ford say's it's normal. They give you an extra warranty, have documented the concerns. I'm just thinking you lucked out. Anything happens you get another engine. You have free range. Enjoy it.

Stupid me, I beat the piss out of my car the second it left the dealers lot, kept the factory oil in it for 6 months, beat the piss out of it on a road course than demanded the dealer change it with factory oil (Blend). I am so disappointed I don't have a tick, oil consumption or a lack of power. I'll just be standing over here after being called out on this forum several times for my opinion on engine break-in and maint. The best part is if I manage to blow up my car at some point, it will likely be covered, because I use it in the designed purpose of the car, no tuners, just lots of smiles.

:cheers:

There are probably a few guys who did basically the same thing you did, but they have the tick and you don't. We all know not every engine is identical due to manufacturing tolerances and QA along the line.

I think it would be very interesting for someone who has the tick to switch to a 5W-30 synthetic blend (that meets the Ford spec) and see if that makes the tick go away. Since these engines don't tick until they are fully hot, my suspicion is 5W-20 is just too thin when at full operating temperature. Running 5W-30 isn't going to hurt anything ... and will probably help reduce or cure the ticking IMO.

Changed oil at 997 miles to Motorcraft Full Synthetic 5w-20 and Motorcraft oil filter. Zero ticking. This was done 4 days after I picked up the car as I put 970 miles on it over 2 days, driving it home.

Just changed the oil at 4500 miles (6 months after the first change) and am running Pennzoil Ultimate Platinum 0W-40 which is a full synthetic. No ticking. I figure this oil is good enough from the factory for the Hellcat and Viper, it's good enough for my 5.0.

 

[Tim Hilliard]

Well are we talking about a tick at the drive-thru or scored cylinder liners? Those are two very different items that are not cured with oil.

 

[GT Pony]

Well are we talking about a tick at the drive-thru or scored cylinder liners? Those are two very different items that are not cured with oil.

This thread is about the "BBQ tick" ... the tick that might show up after the first oil change for some owners.

The other "tick/swoosh" noise was from a couple of scored cylinders apparently ... and yeah, nothing but a new block will fix that. Here's that thread: http://www.mustang6g.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21895

 

[Tim Hilliard]

Yep, I remember my 94 Mark 8 with a tick. The timing chain tensioners used to bleed down. I saw what was involved in updating it and the tick 'went away' If it ain't gonna break, I don't hear it.

 

[Tim Hilliard]

This thread is about the "BBQ tick" ... the tick that might show up after the first oil change for some owners.

The other "tick/swoosh" noise was from a couple of scored cylinders apparently ... and yeah, nothing but a new block will fix that. Here's that thread: http://www.mustang6g.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21895

Pretty sure the OP had his short block replaced from scored cylinders, but I don't care that much.

 

[GT Pony]

Pretty sure the OP had his short block replaced from scored cylinders, but I don't care that much.

Not sure his car is finished yet, but yes he was getting a short block I believe last I heard. His case IMO was something got left inside the engine during manufacturing and got ingested and caused the damage. The BBQ ticking is more along a design issue, or at least an issue with parts that have a range of tolerances and the wrong group of parts makes one engine more likely to tick then the next one.

 

[Maistroyoda]

Hey Astolt, I had mentioned previously that my 2011 F350 powerstroke has the tick for about 1000 miles after an oil change. I know, completely different engine, but the tick sounds exactly the same. Dealer said that its normal and didn't do anything. I was and still am very disappointed but apparently it's a common issue on the new powerstrokes. I read about a guy who had the tick on his truck and the noise went away after he took out about a quart of oil on a new oil change. My truck was due for an oil change so I changed it about two weeks ago. Instead of putting in the usual 12 quarts of synthetic, I tried 11 just for shits n giggles. I didn't turn on the truck for 2 days after the oil change, not sure if that matters, but NO TICK! I took it on a 1300 mile round trip and NO tick period! So one of two things: either the one less quart did the trick or, the noise magically went away after 47000 miles on the truck. My money's on the -1 quart. Again, completely different engine but it's gone. It wouldn't hurt for you to try. If my GT had the tick I'd try that first. Sorry for the novel, just excited about my now tick-less 60k truck!

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