2026 Dark Horse SC Mustang (S650) Pricing Released

[Cobra99]

LOL. You have point, but I don't think that's where he was coming from.

Ford basically sent an old engine design and a regular mustang to multimatic. that's the credit ford gets.

Multimatic gets all the credit for the GTD being the GTD.

Fair enough. I know Multimatic gets a lot of credit, but say nothing about Ford scream ignorance. A lot of the tech come from the racing program. I bet the same for GM.

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[robvas]

Other than bringing in Multimatic for the GT & GTD, I’m not sure that Ford outsources much of their engineering. Manufacturing of parts, yes, but almost all OEM’s do that.

Roush has traditionally done a lot of work for Ford, especially aftermarket and racing programs (not saying they did anything on the GTD, though)

 

[MAGS1]

Roush has traditionally done a lot of work for Ford, especially aftermarket and racing programs (not saying they did anything on the GTD, though)

They have, although they’re kinda like Shelby these days. Just bolt on some parts and a tune. But they’re starting with a completed Ford car, that Ford did the engineering on and that Ford wrote the software for. The amount of R&D and engineering they’re doing is very minimal compared to the car that Ford provided them with.

GTD (and even more so the GT before it), gets to Multimatic as a blank shell. From there, both teams worked to come up with basically a race car for the street. Multimatic brings its racing experience/expertise and Ford brings its team of engineers (that also likely have racing experience) for the street piece of it. And the money, Ford is the one with the deep pockets here.

 

[13GetThere]

I keep hearing about GM and Ford. What about that other car company Stillaintus?

 

[9secondko]

I keep hearing about GM and Ford. What about that other car company Stillaintus?

They pooped the bed and are now cleaning it up. They sort of carved out a niche with fat sloppy cars that had huge power. And then they threw it in the trash can. Now that that experiment is over, If they can get their chassis teams in order, they are a force. Their engine tech is killer. Imagine a new high displacement hemi with turbos. yikes. Probably looking at 1500+ hp. but if they don't offer a lighter sports car or a new Viper type (likely midengine this time around) Ford and Chevy have nothing to worry about.

 

[robvas]

Roush has done things like:

Ford GT race egines

https://www.enginebuildermag.com/2017/06/twin-tubro-ford-3-6l-ecoboost-v6-engine/

 

[Hack]

Ford isn't known for it's engineering, it out sources it. Gm does almost all of their own engineering. I like Ford and have owned nothing but Ford or GM. Sure they helped, but, I don't look at it as a Ford, I see it as a Multimatic. Nothing wrong with that, but the credit goes to Multimatic for me.

According to online sources, most automobile manufacturers outsource engineering. Most of the outsourcing is items like brakes, seats, wiring harnesses and other peripherals. Obviously Brembo and Recaro are examples, as well as the fancy DSSV shocks that are patented by Multimatic and built exclusively by them and used on high performance GM vehicles. The major brands do the integration of those components, and that is true for Ford as much as GM. Both companies employ 150,000+ engineers full time.

Apparently in 2025 Ford Vice Chair John Lawler said IC engines are not a major brand differentiator and Ford would be outsourcing them. With attitudes like that in the board room, it's no wonder Ford hasn't made anything I want to buy in the last 5 years.

For all the carbon fiber in it, the GTD design is way too heavy. And apparently it's also way too expensive to build. To the point where the pricing is completely non-competitive. I don't think it's unfair to even say the price is a joke. It's beyond silly.

My expectation is that Ford engineers did the design work of the GTD and Multimatic does the build. It makes sense that Multimatic has employees more suited to this type of low volume build compared to Ford. I believe the main failure point on the GTD was Ford. Frankly I don't see the GTD as a success with its current weight, price and powertrain.

New product development engineering can be totally handcuffed by management, marketing and accounting, though. I would lay odds that this happened with both the S650 and GTD. All S650 Mustangs should have shared the transaxle architecture and costs. A redesign of the chassis where the back half of the bodies in white for the GTD didn't have to be cut out probably would have gotten the GTD weight down as well.

 

[wingnutt]

Major props to multimatic not ford.

Do. Not. Care.

the title says ford, not multimatic…suck it up cupcake

 

[9secondko]

Be interesting to see where the new grand sport c8 fits in this conversation.

all new v8 and another model with the v8 plus electric. I they’re really going for it.

I can see a new Camaro coming out with this same combo.

and that should drive ford to develop new v8 engines and go for it as well.

 

[OX1]

LOL No! I can speak my mind like anyone else on here. Not bashing Ford, just giving props to the correct company. The 5.2 wasn't designed for the GTD, it is just used in it. I like GM and Ford, that doesn't mean that I think that they are infallible.

Sorry, but this statement "Ford isn't known for it's engineering, it out sources it. Gm does almost all of their own engineering" Does not sound like it's describing ONLY the GTD.

 

[geep81]

haters gonna hate. Car looks awesome. Has likely 800 hp. Ford will sell every single 1 of them. For 100k name something better

Big Mustang and Ford fan here.

A comparable BMW M car with AWD is gonna dust this thing at the strip and on the street for the same price is my guess. (it won't sound or look nearly as good doing it)

 

[Franky16]

Big Mustang and Ford fan here.

A comparable BMW M car with AWD is gonna dust this thing at the strip and on the street for the same price is my guess. (it won't sound or look nearly as good doing it)

yeah but you have to wear a skirt and a flat billed hat to drive a bmw

 

[OX1]

Big Mustang and Ford fan here.

A comparable BMW M car with AWD is gonna dust this thing at the strip and on the street for the same price is my guess. (it won't sound or look nearly as good doing it)

Street yes, but strip?? (with some bolt ons). Pretty easy to get power out of Predator.......



Supposedly "75 grand" worth of engine/mods??

 

[9secondko]

Anyone have an idea when we might be getting horsepower and torque figures?

 

[PVAMT]

2026 Dark Horse SC Mustang (S650) Pricing Released:

https://www.mustang7g.com/forums/threads/2026-dark-horse-sc-mustang-pricing-released.174793/

Well, at least they fixed the fugly front end. This I actually like unlike the GT and EB. I’m still not trading my 16 for one though.

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