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[honeybadger]

They’re more than capable. It’s a matter of wanting to

I'm honestly not sure if they are. their own CEO is fairly open about it.

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[robvas]

When Multimatic is done building GTDs the need to have them do a turbo Coyote in the old Ford GT chassis...problem solved

 

[Outlaw]

Seriously… as much as it pains me to say this as a lifelong Ford guy, if Ford really wants the Mustang to go toe-to-toe with what Chevy is doing right now, they need to swing for the fences.

Imagine this for a second: a twin-turbo Coyote variant designed from the ground up to live as a TT engine, stuffed into a GT-esque body—maybe even on a lightweight aluminum chassis to keep costs in check. Pair that with both RWD and an AWD/electric assist option, similar to what Chevy is doing with the newer C8 variants, and suddenly we’ve got a real heavyweight fight on our hands.

Because right now… as much as my blue-oval heart hates typing this… the Mustang and the newer C8 lineup—Grand Sport, Grand Sport X, ZR1/ZR1X—aren’t really playing the same game. Chevy brought a railgun to a fistfight while we’re still arguing about tire compounds and exhaust notes.

Don’t get me wrong—I bleed Ford. The Voodoo is one of the greatest engines ever built and the GT350 is still one of the most emotional cars Ford has ever made. But man… if Ford unleashed a purpose-built TT Coyote halo car, the entire performance world would lose its mind overnight.

A Ford guy can dream, right?

While yes this is true, you can buy and build a got to be faster and much more reliable than a zr1x for cheaper than buying it new. I'll take that over the Chevy all day long. All you see now I'm the headlines are Chevy and I'm being sued because their corvettes are burning down with 100 miles on them, their trucks are blowing up engines left and right and they have no fix. Yikes

 

[TreeFiddyAre]

Ford priced a supercharged coyote at a starting price of 103k and their 400k ultimate mustang gets clapped by a 200k Vette. Im not sure they're capable of producing what you say, TBH.

Would love to see it, tho

I honestly can’t help but think Ford could build something like this if they really wanted to. Maybe it wouldn’t land at the exact price point needed to go head-to-head with the top-tier C8 variants right out of the gate… but the capability is definitely there. Honestly, with the right budget, I feel like half the engineers/gear heads on this forum could probably pull it off too.

Half-joking here, but if I were Ford’s skunkworks team I’d start by grabbing a ZR1X, tearing it completely down, reverse engineering the major systems, and really studying the head flow, intake architecture, turbo packaging, and thermal management. That’s where a lot of the magic lives. Then take those lessons and apply them to the Coyote / Voodoo / Predator architecture—because those engines already have a ridiculously strong foundation.

From there? Stuff that thing into a proper two-door halo chassis like the GT, keep the weight under 3,500 lbs, give it real aero, and design the engine as a purpose-built twin-turbo setup from day one instead of adapting an NA motor to forced induction later. With today’s manufacturing tech—3D printing polymers, carbon composites, and even metal structures—it’s not crazy to think a limited-production chassis could be produced far more efficiently than people assume.

And while we’re dreaming… why not revive the Probe name, make it RWD (obviously), and turn it into a lightweight, mid-engine or front-mid halo platform. I know, I know… the internet would melt down the second they heard “Probe” again. But hey, the name deserves redemption.

Give it comparable power to the big-dog C8 variants, keep the weight down, let the ECU actually be tunable (imagine that…), and price it somewhere within striking distance of the competition.

Now, I know all of this probably sounds like a bit of a pipe dream… but honestly it’s not that far off. The benchmark is already out there, the technology to produce the parts absolutely exists, and Ford already has a lot of the core building blocks. I’m sure the GT chassis could be modified to accept a V8 with a pair of snails bolted to it, and once you widen the waist to package the turbos, cooling, and plumbing, it would likely change the body proportions enough that it could justify a completely new platform name anyway.

From a business standpoint, I actually believe something like this could be done profitably while still offering it to the public at a price point that competes with—or even undercuts—its American competition.

If Ford pulled that off, we’d be right back to true car wars again—the kind that rival the late-60s and early-70s muscle era. And honestly, it might even force the exotic manufacturers to reevaluate what they’re doing when the Americans start out-exotic-ing the exotics at their own game.
**Lets not forget Koenigseggs Gamera started out with a 3 cylinder in the back and is now being produced with a TT 5L V8 so it can be down with the right minds behind the project

 

[MAGS1]

Half-joking here, but if I were Ford’s skunkworks team I’d start by grabbing a ZR1X, tearing it completely down, reverse engineering the major systems, and really studying the head flow, intake architecture, turbo packaging, and thermal management. That’s where a lot of the magic lives. Then take those lessons and apply them to the Coyote / Voodoo / Predator architecture—because those engines already have a ridiculously strong foundation.

They should have a lot of that knowledge already from the TT V6 in the Ford GT. They ran LeMans with that setup so they know how to do a mid engine setup under extreme conditions, just need to adapt it to the Coyote/Predator platform. Like you and I and some others have said, Ford has the knowledge. It’s whether they actually want to do it

 

[robvas]

That Coyote GT would be what $600k?

 

[TreeFiddyAre]

That Coyote GT would be what $600k?
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If Chevy can make a sub 250K Domestic Supercar than Ford can too

 

[9secondko]

If Chevy can make a sub 250K Domestic Supercar than Ford can too

‘exactly. Too many suckers willing to pay fords fairy tale prices killing the rest of us.

GM was able to build the world-breaker hulk, developing an all-new platform, bringing it to life with an all new exotic engine, then going twin turbo, then electrifying it on top of that - and destroying everyone - for a steal of a deal.

meanwhile ford is over here missing performance targets by giving an old gt500 the 2015 camaro z28 suspension, a transaxle and body kit. Then selling it as if they built an all-new carbon fiber rocket to Saturn. It’s freaking embarrassing.

ford can build a new GT in-house this time (and give it a real engine this time - all new TTV8. NO OLD ECOBOOST COYOTE) , and apply the lessons learned to their other vehicles. It’s called investment. And it pays off in the amortization process over the years across product lines. But Ford hasn’t really invested in the Mustang since the 2016 gt350. And then to a somewhat lesser extent the 2020 gt500.

ok Ford. You did your thing. You’ve saved tons of money the last couple generations reusing old stuff. Let’s see fresh investment dividends in the next. Get a whole new board if you have to. But don’t languish on the vine. It’s not right.

 

[robvas]

What did Ford put the 2015 Camaro Z/28 suspension in?

 

[9secondko]

What did Ford put the 2015 Camaro Z/28 suspension in?

The GTD. Sort of tongue in cheek, but also kinda real. The 2026 GTD uses the newest version of the DSSV dampers the 2015 Z28 used.

 

[robvas]

The GTD. Sort of tongue in cheek, but also kinda real. The 2026 GTD uses the newest version of the DSSV dampers the 2015 Z28 used.

In that case so do the ZR2 trucks

 

[9secondko]

In that case so do the ZR2 trucks

so now the GTD is a gt500 with a different tranny, tune, body kit and truck suspension. LOL.

but the zr2 doesn’t charge a mortgage for it.

the GTD sould have been called gt500 and sold for the dark horse sc price tag.

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