If we pretend the Mustang is a 911? (Just humor me)

[RobZ71LM7]

Porsche is like driving a computer. That being said I think it's silly to compare to them. It doesn't stop me from wanting one though.

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[Ewheels]

... and then I mistakenly drove a 991 GT3.
There is no comparison.

Every single person I have ever known who has driven a 911 has said the same exact thing.
I haven't driven one yet and I'm not sure I want to until I can afford one.

 

[xXANCHORMONXx]

Every single person I have ever known who has driven a 911 has said the same exact thing.
I haven't driven one yet and I'm not sure I want to until I can afford one.

Definitely do not.

The hype is indeed real.

 

[9secondko]

Definitely do not.

The hype is indeed real.

Gotta wonder how it compares to the GTD experience.

 

[xXANCHORMONXx]

Gotta wonder how it compares to the GTD experience.

I applaud Ford with what they did to create the GTD, however that thing is morbidly obese.

 

[IPOGT]

Porsche is like driving a computer. That being said I think it's silly to compare to them. It doesn't stop me from wanting one though.

I love the Mach 1 for what it is, but driving the Cayman is literally like being part of the car. The Mustang feels much bigger, more “around you” and less connected, but equally fun in other ways/reasons. PDK vs. the TR-3160, etc.
On track, you feel the weight and size of the Mustang compared to the Porsche Instantly. Can’t speak about a 911, but i‘d imagine the same recipe applies.

 

[9secondko]

I applaud Ford with what they did to create the GTD, however that thing is morbidly obese.

Agreed. But I was Morse soecifically wondering how they compared in driving dynamics since Ford counteracted the weight as much as possible.

 

[xXANCHORMONXx]

Agreed. But I was Morse soecifically wondering how they compared in driving dynamics since Ford counteracted the weight as much as possible.

At the end of the day, it’s hard to hide around 1000 pounds.

Consumables become a factor, especially tires and brakes.

 

[CrazyHippie]

I think it’s easier to understand when you drive both cars at the limit.

Having a massive weight difference, and a car is designed from the factory to live on the track allows you to focus more on your lines, speed etc.

Both of my 6G mustangs were and handful at the limit, which isn’t bad and I learned a lot.

 

[accel]

Not sure how many of you are Porsche guys, but I was thinking if the 911 is to Porsche what the Mustang is to Ford, where would you rank it in comparison?

Pretty much only talking about S550's here

GT2RS = GT500 for sure
GT3RS? Kind of hard since no NA car for DCT but it would have to fall under the Mach 1 HP and GT350R since the M1 HP holds the lightning lap record for manual S550's at VIR but the GT350 has an engine closer to Porsche's 4L.

Mach 1 non HP = ST? Touring?

Any GTPP = 991 Touring?

V6's and ecoboosts = More kind of like Cayman GTS 2.5 or something? Carreras are too fast, Idk lol

Wanted to see if you guys had ever try to make that comparison. Since Ford is literally competing with GT3's now with the Mustang. I know the GTD should be the GT3 RS but GT3RS is NA and about the same hp as Gen 4 coyote DH engine. So the GTD is like a GT2 RS Weissach with Manthey Kit.

The initial statement of yours is cultural, not technical. These brands never competed directly.
And so trying to align cars technically model y model will not work. Maybe again a different criteria should be used.

Like Porsche is mostly known for its 911, and the cultural equivalent Ford reference would be a GT?

 

[sk47]

The initial statement of yours is cultural, not technical. These brands never competed directly.
And so trying to align cars technically model y model will not work. Maybe again a different criteria should be used.

Like Porsche is mostly known for its 911, and the cultural equivalent Ford reference would be a GT?

Hello; Have to agree with you on both points. The two cars have very different heritages and purpose. Ford took a Ford Falcon 4-door small sedan chassis and made a Mustang on top of it. The very first Mustang I saw back in 1965 had the inline six. Soon enough the mid to late 1960's HP wars were in full swing. Ford upped the game with bigger engines same as the other of the big Detroit three. The measure of success was straight line acceleration.

Porsche took a flawed design, essentially the VW Beetle, and over decades refined it to a very fine point. The measure of success was road handling not pure acceleration. I told this story before. I raced a 400 cu in V8 Camaro in my maybe 80HP 1972 Porsche 914 with a 1700 cc four cylinder. We ran maybe sixty miles. He ran away in the early road with long straights. When we got into the twisties I eventually passed in a curve and got to the destination minutes ahead. The 914 was weak compared to a 911.

Then there are other ways the cars differ. Price being perhaps the bigger. Got a feeling the top of the line Dark Horse is still cheaper to buy than a base 911. I am guessing as i have not done the shopping for either.
Got a feeling the Mustang sells more units by far that a 911.

 

[SMTCapeCod]

Was surprised to stumble upon this. Eye-rolled at first, that 928 has been visited with some poor decisions....Interesting to hear some of the stats/observations that the narrator makes, bear in mind the 1.5 decade difference in design and engineering benchmarks....That said I'm only part-way through the video....1.25x playback rate helps.
*No affiliation*

A little O/T given ancient history, would be interested to read a comparison of comparable model years back in the day. There was an '82 article on Mustang/Camaro/928, but all made a lot of progress by the end of the 928 run in 1994.

 

[Nickel]

The initial statement of yours is cultural, not technical. These brands never competed directly.
And so trying to align cars technically model y model will not work. Maybe again a different criteria should be used.

Like Porsche is mostly known for its 911, and the cultural equivalent Ford reference would be a GT?

The GT came out basically 3 times in history to make history. Like Porsche's very random Carrera GT, 911 GT1 Strassenversion, or the 918 Spyder. The 911 has been around almost as long as the Mustang and has many different variations and many price brackets. So the 911 in comparison to a brand's signature sports car is definitely equivalent to Ford's Mustang.

 

[AndiObb]

Still not sure, why you want to compare a "basic V8" with a "souped-up 6zyl.". Beside this, the standards are not comparible, like chassis etc.

In Germany driving a Mustang is more like a statement, like a philosophy. There´s a reason why German cars are so much more expensive.

Although having German Autobahn here: cruising in my V8 Mustang with 130 km/h (usually avoiding Autobahn) gives me more guts than speeding with my BMW 250 km/h...

 

[Balr14]

I traded my 2010 Porsche Carrera S for a 2018 Mustang GT. I have since traded the Mustang for a BMW Z4. Porsches can be a hassle to live with on a daily basis, depending on where you live. The things that make a 911 a pain in the ass are not an issue with the Mustang. As a weekend fun car, if you live where it never gets too cold and the roads are nice and smooth, the Porsche is great.

There is no comparison between a Porsche 911 and any Mustang. The Porsche is about precision, the Mustang is brute force. The Porsche is light and nimble, response is as fast as you can think it. The Mustang is a school bus, it's heavy and ponderous. You need to plan ahead. Engine performance is quite similar between the two, both relatively small displacement engines (relative to vehicle mass) that you need to wind the piss out of to get peak performance. That was my biggest complaint about both cars, but that's me. I like more bottom end power that comes on a lot easier.

I owned both the Porsche and Mustang for about 3 years. The Porsche left impressions ( both positive and negative) I'm not likely to forget. The Mustang was just another car, but it was easy to live with.

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