AWD 2017 Mustang GT Conversion

[djcodeman]

It is a 9.5:1 compression ratio engine. My goal is to run 15-16 psi on 93 long term.

Why not run e85? Much safer for the engine

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[xr4x4ti]

Why not run e85? Much safer for the engine

I like the challenge

 

[djcodeman]

I like the challenge

Stock fuel setup too?

 

[xr4x4ti]

Stock fuel setup too?

DW400 pump
VMP voltage booster
ID1050x injectors

 

[HKusp]

DW400 pump
VMP voltage booster
ID1050x injectors

The engineermike special!!

 

[Stam616]

The AWD Mustang Gets New Exhaust! Project Traction is back on the road.

Love this! Ford should be paying attention. AWD is the way to go when you want to open up and broaden your fan base. Of course it can’t cost six figures either so it’s an “affordable” sports car for regular people. Ford- PAY ATTENTION!

 

[xr4x4ti]

It is funny how many threads are on the forum like this recent one about tires:

https://www.mustang6g.com/forums/threads/tire-recommendation-for-boosted-cars.224942/

I will give you my humble opinion. Your Mustang will not hook up on the street with any street tire especially on a 19 inch wheel, the bigger the wheel the worse the tire will perform at the drag strip. The P4S is an excellent all around tire. The N555R2, the M/T ET Street R or the more streetable ET Street SS will give you more traction on the street, but probably not enough to make the expense worth it and they have a ton or drawbacks, like they don't last long on the street, cornering performance, wet performance (ET Street R is terrible when it is wet), braking performance, basically every performance metric of the car will be worse with a drag radial except straight line performance. If you do that 5% of actual drag racing, just buy a cheap set of rear 17x10 rear wheels with a set of drag radials or real slicks for use at the track. You could even get a set of used 17x10's and get the M/T ET Street R, which should be the best on a prepared drag strip, or even better a real set of slicks and change them at the track.

Besides the fact that I just get a kick out of figuring stuff out and building it, that is the whole point of my project. Put the power down on street tires.

Most of the comments on my videos are very positive, but then I get some like this:

"Why going this route when you could always go 15inch wheel setup for excellent grip?"

"There are thousands of 2wd 10 second mustangs. I don’t get it. Cool car. Prolly great in inclement weather but 10sec isn’t a big deal."

10 sec is not a big deal for a properly setup drag car, especially an automatic. I will be the first to admit that a 2wd car on properly setup suspension with the appropriate tires will be faster at a prepped track. What people don't seem to understand is that I could do a 10.79 in front of my house with 295/35 R19 Extreme Contact sports on all four corners. The problem is I will never film that and put it on YouTube. I don't understand people who film their 60-130 runs in "Mexico" and put them on YouTube. I honestly don't need to ever go over 100mph on the street. For me it is all about being able to punch it and actually use the power on the street, stop light to stop light.

This is not venting, I actually find if humorous that people don't realize this, or think that I am not intelligent enough to understand this

What the car really needs right now besides fixing the noisy 2nd gear is some serious driver mod! I need to get the 60ft down to 1.4-1.5sec by learning how to launch better.




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[80FoxCoupe]

It is funny how many threads are on the forum like this recent one about tires:

https://www.mustang6g.com/forums/threads/tire-recommendation-for-boosted-cars.224942/



Besides the fact that I just get a kick out of figuring stuff out and building it, that is the whole point of my project. Put the power down on street tires.

Most of the comments on my videos are very positive, but then I get some like this:

"Why going this route when you could always go 15inch wheel setup for excellent grip?"

"There are thousands of 2wd 10 second mustangs. I don’t get it. Cool car. Prolly great in inclement weather but 10sec isn’t a big deal."

10 sec is not a big deal for a properly setup drag car, especially an automatic. I will be the first to admit that a 2wd car on properly setup suspension with the appropriate tires will be faster at a prepped track. What people don't seem to understand is that I could do a 10.79 in front of my house with 295/35 R19 Extreme Contact sports on all four corners. The problem is I will never film that and put it on YouTube. I don't understand people who film their 60-130 runs in "Mexico" and put them on YouTube. I honestly don't need to ever go over 100mph on the street. For me it is all about being able to punch it and actually use the power on the street, stop light to stop light.

This is not venting, I actually find if humorous that people don't realize this, or think that I am not intelligent enough to understand this

What the car really needs right now besides fixing the noisy 2nd gear is some serious driver mod! I need to get the 60ft down to 1.4-1.5sec by learning how to launch better.




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They just don't understand. Your description above is exactly why I love my f150. Runs 10s on the street on 295/45-20 street tires. Drive it to the cruise in, drag strip, rain, snow whatever. I'd love to do an awd mustang, but my dedication doesn't hold a candle to yours!

 

[HKusp]

It is funny how many threads are on the forum like this recent one about tires:

https://www.mustang6g.com/forums/threads/tire-recommendation-for-boosted-cars.224942/



Besides the fact that I just get a kick out of figuring stuff out and building it, that is the whole point of my project. Put the power down on street tires.

Most of the comments on my videos are very positive, but then I get some like this:

"Why going this route when you could always go 15inch wheel setup for excellent grip?"

"There are thousands of 2wd 10 second mustangs. I don’t get it. Cool car. Prolly great in inclement weather but 10sec isn’t a big deal."

10 sec is not a big deal for a properly setup drag car, especially an automatic. I will be the first to admit that a 2wd car on properly setup suspension with the appropriate tires will be faster at a prepped track. What people don't seem to understand is that I could do a 10.79 in front of my house with 295/35 R19 Extreme Contact sports on all four corners. The problem is I will never film that and put it on YouTube. I don't understand people who film their 60-130 runs in "Mexico" and put them on YouTube. I honestly don't need to ever go over 100mph on the street. For me it is all about being able to punch it and actually use the power on the street, stop light to stop light.

This is not venting, I actually find if humorous that people don't realize this, or think that I am not intelligent enough to understand this

What the car really needs right now besides fixing the noisy 2nd gear is some serious driver mod! I need to get the 60ft down to 1.4-1.5sec by learning how to launch better.




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That's the difference between "10 second capable" and "10 seconds does" yours does it, and like you said, it will do it pretty much anywhere with zero prep as long as it's not snowing.

 

[SHOdaddy68]

Why do it?

A. It's your car.
B. You wanted to do it and rose to the challenge and did it.
C. You think it's cool and it makes you happy.

I've seen both negative and supportive comments on here about faux 350 or 500 parts on a GT or Ecoboost. May car is in that category. I have wanted (and still want) a GT350/GT500 but probably will never get one. So, I made my GT look a little closer like my dream car. I love it and it makes me happy. I don't tell people I have something I actually don't.

It's funny how some people on here will crucify other Mustang owners if a car doesn't fit what they like. Others are super supportive. I may not like a particular set of wheels I see on somebody's car, but that doesn't give me the right to tell that person "those wheels are ugly".

I heard somewhere that the rarest Mustang is one that remains 100% stock.

@xr4x4ti Kudos to you for taking on the challenge. I have enjoyed watching your progress and I think it's super cool and very unique!

 

[engineermike]

I have a low 11 second awd truck literally on eco tires and a -900 rwhp mustang on et street R tires. In the 1/8 mile on the street the truck will win every time. You just zombie-stomp it from a dead stop and….low 11. The car will smoke the et street Rs at anything under about 80 mph. Prep’d track, different story, but I do all my actual driving and enjoyment on the street where awd wins every time.

TLDR: I get it, the haters don’t.

Looking forward, if it winds up running mid 10’s on all-season tires on pump gas with full emissions, that’s the ultimate true street weapon.

 

[Mike Pfeifer]

It is funny how many threads are on the forum like this recent one about tires:

https://www.mustang6g.com/forums/threads/tire-recommendation-for-boosted-cars.224942/



Besides the fact that I just get a kick out of figuring stuff out and building it, that is the whole point of my project. Put the power down on street tires.

Most of the comments on my videos are very positive, but then I get some like this:

"Why going this route when you could always go 15inch wheel setup for excellent grip?"

"There are thousands of 2wd 10 second mustangs. I don’t get it. Cool car. Prolly great in inclement weather but 10sec isn’t a big deal."

10 sec is not a big deal for a properly setup drag car, especially an automatic. I will be the first to admit that a 2wd car on properly setup suspension with the appropriate tires will be faster at a prepped track. What people don't seem to understand is that I could do a 10.79 in front of my house with 295/35 R19 Extreme Contact sports on all four corners. The problem is I will never film that and put it on YouTube. I don't understand people who film their 60-130 runs in "Mexico" and put them on YouTube. I honestly don't need to ever go over 100mph on the street. For me it is all about being able to punch it and actually use the power on the street, stop light to stop light.

This is not venting, I actually find if humorous that people don't realize this, or think that I am not intelligent enough to understand this

What the car really needs right now besides fixing the noisy 2nd gear is some serious driver mod! I need to get the 60ft down to 1.4-1.5sec by learning how to launch better.

I get it, 100%. The project is the point. It’s all about the journey. Some people are only able to see the bottom line, and a project someone pours their time and effort into is no different than a mass produced car in their eyes.

 

[xr4x4ti]

This is not what I want or intended to do, but the engineer/tinkerer in me can't help but think about it. How much would a set of narrower and lighter wheels help?

Also the massive 15in front rotors are not helping the situation. For how I drive the car, 14in rotors would be more than enough. I should do the math on how much extra HP that 15in vs 14 or 13in rotors consume when accelerating.

@engineermike didn't you do some testing with lighter wheels and got some positive results?

 

[Bulldog9]

Anyone who casts shade on what you've done is jealous and suffering from envy...... Then again, lot's of 'Mustang Guys" are Yung Dum and full of C**, and the internet is full of a bunch of either terrible people, or people otherwise decent and polite in public (accountability) decide to show their 6th grade @$$. MOST of us applaud what you have done with this AWD conversion, and think it's a great project.

 

[engineermike]

@engineermike didn't you do some testing with lighter wheels and got some positive results?

I dropped a bunch of wheel weight, removed my gurney flap, and dropped about .2 in the 60-130. It was only one run each way, so I don't know how conclusive that was. I think I dropped 20 lb a piece up front and 10 lb a piece in the back. Back in the day we said skinnies are worth about 2 mph at the track.

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