Report: 2026 GT500 Confirmed in UAW document

[robvas]

Well, it’s not going to be called a GT500 so boost of any kind is not a requirement

Better re-name the thread then

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[MAGS1]

Better re-name the thread then

One of the union documents supposedly had GT500 in it so I think that’s where the thread name came from. Other social media people have also been referring to it as a possible GT500. Problem is, Ford did not renew their licensing agreement with Shelby, so they have no rights to the GT500 name for S650.

 

[mavisky]

GT500 has been supercharged for the last 18 years I doubt they drop that

The 670hp (?) NA 5.5 C8 Z06 is still in production it's only been out a year

Not a GT500, so doesn't need to be supercharged.

The Z06 uses a completely different engine to the base C8, even more different than the Voodoo was to the Coyote. Given Ford's financials I dont see them developing an entirely new engine to compete on the hp/liter level of the Z06. The Z06 engine was developed as the basis for thr Z06, ZR1, whatever they're developing above the ZR1, and thr Corvette GT3 race car. Ford on the other hand just uses a custom 5.4 liter version of the Coyote in their GT3 car.

Also Mustangs have never been built to compete with Corvettes and I wouldn't expect them to now.

 

[MAGS1]

whatever they're developing above the ZR1

Supposedly going to be named the Zora and it’s been spotted out at the Ring for testing. I’ve seen reports that it’s going to have an electric component based off the E-Ray but will also have the TT’s from the ZR1. Some people have said it may also be AWD, not sure on that if they’re using the ZR1 as the platform to build off of. Body styling looks very similar to the ZR1, so my guess is the powertrain will be the main differentiator

 

[robvas]

One of the union documents supposedly had GT500 in it so I think that’s where the thread name came from. Other social media people have also been referring to it as a possible GT500. Problem is, Ford did not renew their licensing agreement with Shelby, so they have no rights to the GT500 name for S650.

They just need to make a phone call then.

 

[mavisky]

Supposedly going to be named the Zora and it’s been spotted out at the Ring for testing. I’ve seen reports that it’s going to have an electric component based off the E-Ray but will also have the TT’s from the ZR1. Some people have said it may also be AWD, not sure on that if they’re using the ZR1 as the platform to build off of. Body styling looks very similar to the ZR1, so my guess is the powertrain will be the main differentiator

Yea should be able to fit.the battery pack down the middle and the frivw motor up front still with the ZR1 architecture that currently exists. Should be an absolute monster.

 

[MAGS1]

They just need to make a phone call then.

I’d be surprised if Ford renewed the license at this point. Given the Dark Horse name and GTD name, Ford hasn’t shown much interest in using names of old. Although, the rumor is the Boss name is in the mix, Dark Horse Boss is a name I’ve seen floated around.

 

[mavisky]

They just need to make a phone call then.

Shelby isn't interested anymore, hence why they just release a "new' S650 based Shelby GT350 and summarily got ahit on for it being just another Coyote/Whipple combo again.

 

[robvas]

Not a GT500, so doesn't need to be supercharged.

The Z06 uses a completely different engine to the base C8, even more different than the Voodoo was to the Coyote. Given Ford's financials I dont see them developing an entirely new engine to compete on the hp/liter level of the Z06. The Z06 engine was developed as the basis for thr Z06, ZR1, whatever they're developing above the ZR1, and thr Corvette GT3 race car. Ford on the other hand just uses a custom 5.4 liter version of the Coyote in their GT3 car.

Also Mustangs have never been built to compete with Corvettes and I wouldn't expect them to now.

They can't make an engine that is overshadowed by a similar engine from Chevy.

I can't see anything from a GT3 making it to production either

 

[MAGS1]

Shelby isn't interested anymore, hence why they just release a "new' S650 based Shelby GT350 and summarily got ahit on for it being just another Coyote/Whipple combo again.

I think it’s mutual, I don’t think Ford is interested in using historical nameplates anymore either

 

[mavisky]

They can't make an engine that is overshadowed by a similar engine from Chevy.

I can't see anything from a GT3 making it to production either

What are you basing that on? A 5.4L cross plane crank engine has nothing in common with a 5.5L flat plane crank engine. Ford has 0 problem not trying to play "keeping up with the Jones'" with a Corvette priced at double what a Mustang costs.

Also we obviously wouldn't get the fully dry aumped GT3 race engine, but if they can bore the Coyote out to 5.4 and still make 500+hp through miniscule restrictions, it could probably make good power on a wet sump system and no restrictions.

 

[robvas]

What are you basing that on? A 5.4L cross plane crank engine has nothing in common with a 5.5L flat plane crank engine. Ford has 0 problem not trying to play "keeping up with the Jones'" with a Corvette priced at double what a Mustang costs.

They are 5.4 and 5.5, low displacement (compared to the old 7.0 Corvette or Godzilla), high RPM DOHC engines. Crank has nothing to do with it.

The Z06 MSRP starts at $114k, how much does you think the GT500 (or whatever they are going to call it) is going to cost?

And what's the double the price you're talking about?

Also we obviously wouldn't get the fully dry aumped GT3 race engine, but if they can bore the Coyote out to 5.4 and still make 500+hp through miniscule restrictions, it could probably make good power on a wet sump system and no restrictions.

Why bother going to 5.4?

The 5.0 in the dark horse makes 500 and the 5.2 would do it easily.

 

[mavisky]

They are 5.4 and 5.5, low displacement (compared to the old 7.0 Corvette or Godzilla), high RPM DOHC engines. Crank has nothing to do with it.

Crank has evetything to do with rpm, and horspower is just a function of torque x rpm, so if youre chasing hp numbers then the crank matters. Ford kneecapped the Voodoo by not making it a traditional FPC and that limited its rpm somewhat and its hp as well as by forcing it to retain the single TB and single intake manifold.

The Z06 MSRP starts at $114k, how much does you think the GT500 (or whatever they are going to call it) is going to cost?

And what's the double the price you're talking about?

They atart at 114k but they go to 130 -160k pretty quickly. If this stays NA with a DCT it shouldn't be more than about 10-15k more than a current Dark Horse.

Why bother going to 5.4?

The 5.0 in the dark horse makes 500 and the 5.2 would do it easily.

There's noboroduction NA 5.2 currently and thats just a slight increase over the 5.0 currently in production. Ford is already building the GTD as a link to their GT3 racing program, but its price makes it super rare. The 5.4 and a DCT would be a lower level race track prepped related version of the 5.4 and sequential equipped GT3 racecar for the "common man".

Again we are just shooting in the dark here on what the powertrain actually is and im just trying to think like someone in marketing and an engineer with a limited budget.

 

[Epiphany]

The 5.4 and a DCT would be a lower level race track prepped related version of the 5.4 and sequential equipped GT3 racecar for the "common man".

Exactly what I've been saying. Another Predator in a "GT500" would be the same old recipe. A normally aspirated 5.4....ooof. I think that's the plan along with it being limited availability, even more so than the GTD. So yup, absolutely retarded pricing at your local dealer.

 

[TonyT930]

I dont even care about a new GT500 at this point. Its gonna be so overpriced that it won't be worth buying.

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