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What's your recommendation for curtailing the mechanic from taking your car out and "punching it" (using paddle shifters, etc) while at the shop? I have a dash cam, but the last time I had my car at the Ford Dealership in Denton, they disconnected my camera so I couldn't see what they were up to.
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go to a shop that isn't shitty, and that you trust
 

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Other than the dash cam being disconnected, are there tells the vehicle was abused in some way?

Ultimately, it comes down to trust, in the dealer and their team.

Dash cams are bittersweet. I can appreciate leaving the unit in-place. But at the same time, I don't want to be filmed. IDK where those images are going, how they are kept and what someone is doing with them. I get it. There are bad techs out there. If the sense is things are so bad I have to film the work to begin with, I shouldn't be using that place. YMMV.

While I can do general maintenance myself, extensive repairs or maintenance is done at the dealer. When considering a drop-off, I arrive at the dealer, discuss the situation and look to schedule a date/time that works for both of us. I avoid Mondays or Fridays and try to find periods when their schedule is slackest. I realize this isn't possible with everyone. I do feel it helps, versus arriving at the "pile" on Monday AM, unannounced.

For any vehicle, I always arrive with it clean, inside and out. Filming the car, with video or photos, and documenting any blemishes at hand-off, is a way of showing the Service Advisor you expect the car to be treated a certain way. Ask them to review the car and document any scratches or imperfections on the ticket as you're presenting the car to them.

How the car is parked. How the seat might be changed. Scratches on finishes. Greasy foot prints or handprints are other tells, that, while they might/might not have abused the car, they didn't respect it.

Checking mileage. That should be on the service ticket. The car might be driven for a field check. A few miles, OK. Seeing 10+ miles (or whatever someone deems excessive) raises suspicion.

If you've had good work accomplished previously, at close, let anyone know how much you appreciate that with a follow-up, even a letter. A thing of donuts or movie passes. IDK. Doesn't have to be big or grandiose. Customer Service fields are challenging. The occasional subscribers highlighting the good work that was done are often remembered and appreciated when they return.

Sometimes, things change. A dealer you might have relied on before simply might not be as good now. Dealers change. Techs move on. You might not find that out until you have service there.

Your trust in this dealer is zero. Google, BBB reviews and referrals from local car clubs could help identify a new place. A 6G Member in the Dallas or DFW area might recommend a shop or dealer they've had good experiences with.

Good Luck. :please:
 
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Have your tuner write a valet tune for the car that doesn’t allow the techs to go over 4K rpm. I did this when I gave my 2004 Mach 1 drag car to my 15 year old son for his first car. Unfortunately. I screwed up and left the SCT tuning device in my closet, when I should have taken it to work, so that he couldn’t gain access to it. I didn’t find out until the night before my son was shipping off to Navy boot camp that he had taken the tuning device down from my closet and had loaded the race and nitrous tunes back into the car and had been having himself a good ole time with the car.

This is the only method that I know of that will stop that nonsense. Just don’t leave the tuning device in the car and let the service adviser know not to flash the PCM under any circumstances. When you get the car back, reload your favorite tune and you’re good to go.
 
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I agree with @Skye , it ultimately comes down to trust. I rarely to never leave my car anywhere, especially at a dealer and if I do I try to be a "waiter" that way I can wander around the dealer and I can see if my car goes in or out. That said, I have a shop that I trust wholeheartedly to work on mine now. He has done all the work on mine both my 22 GT and my Mach 1. And I trust him completely. I know he treats my car like I would treat it myself, maybe better... And I do have a dash cam, but not for monitoring my mechanic, but for monitoring all the idiots on the road that can't drive now a days...
 

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Other than the dash cam being disconnected, are there tells the vehicle was abused in some way?

Ultimately, it comes down to trust, in the dealer and their team.

Dash cams are bittersweet. I can appreciate leaving the unit in-place. But at the same time, I don't want to be filmed. IDK where those images are going, how they are kept and what someone is doing with them. I get it. There are bad techs out there. If the sense is things are so bad I have to film the work to begin with, I shouldn't be using that place. YMMV.

While I can do general maintenance myself, extensive repairs or maintenance is done at the dealer. When considering a drop-off, I arrive at the dealer, discuss the situation and look to schedule a date/time that works for both of us. I avoid Mondays or Fridays and try to find periods when their schedule is slackest. I realize this isn't possible with everyone. I do feel it helps, versus arriving at the "pile" on Monday AM, unannounced.

For any vehicle, I always arrive with it clean, inside and out. Filming the car, with video or photos, and documenting any blemishes at hand-off, is a way of showing the Service Advisor you expect the car to be treated a certain way. Ask them to review the car and document any scratches or imperfections on the ticket as you're presenting the car to them.

How the car is parked. How the seat might be changed. Scratches on finishes. Greasy foot prints or handprints are other tells, that, while they might/might not have abused the car, they didn't respect it.

Checking mileage. That should be on the service ticket. The car might be driven for a field check. A few miles, OK. Seeing 10+ miles (or whatever someone deems excessive) raises suspicion.

If you've had good work accomplished previously, at close, let anyone know how much you appreciate that with a follow-up, even a letter. A thing of donuts or movie passes. IDK. Doesn't have to be big or grandiose. Customer Service fields are challenging. The occasional subscribers highlighting the good work that was done are often remembered and appreciated when they return.

Sometimes, things change. A dealer you might have relied on before simply might not be as good now. Dealers change. Techs move on. You might not find that out until you have service there.

Your trust in this dealer is zero. Google, BBB reviews and referrals from local car clubs could help identify a new place. A 6G Member in the Dallas or DFW area might recommend a shop or dealer they've had good experiences with.

Good Luck. :please:
Every time my S550 has been to a Ford shop, or elsewhere for work, I always take pics of the car on their lot capturing their Dealer signage in background which time stamps/dates it for the “before”. I also take pics of each angle of the exterior, rims, and a couple shots of the interior (interior because I have Ceramic Leather seats). This way the car is documented how I left it with them.

Now the last time I was at a Ford Shop THEY now walk around the vehicle and use an iPad or similar device taking pics of the exterior before I sign and they take the car. So they must be doing that for their own protection as well.



As far as stopping anyone from romping on it…. You mentioned you have a dash cam… Interior dash cams are obvious because of their position. What would not be obvious is installing a similar dash cam or other type of GoPro cam outside the vehicle behind the front grille looking out…. This way you can still see/hear what goes on and they wouldn’t know it exists…
 

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Every time my S550 has been to a Ford shop, or elsewhere for work, I always take pics of the car on their lot capturing their Dealer signage in background which time stamps/dates it for the “before”. I also take pics of each angle of the exterior, rims, and a couple shots of the interior (interior because I have Ceramic Leather seats). This way the car is documented how I left it with them.

Now the last time I was at a Ford Shop THEY now walk around the vehicle and use an iPad or similar device taking pics of the exterior before I sign and they take the car. So they must be doing that for their own protection as well.



As far as stopping anyone from romping on it…. You mentioned you have a dash cam… Interior dash cams are obvious because of their position. What would not be obvious is installing a similar dash cam or other type of GoPro cam outside the vehicle behind the front grille looking out…. This way you can still see/hear what goes on and they wouldn’t know it exists…
Laughed when you said “Romping on it” 😂 VERY NY/NJ…😂
 

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Get a dash cam with battery backup. Even if the tech unplugs it, it will still record. Mine saved me from a malicious Firestone tech when that moron unplugged it then promptly redline no lift shifted my car around the block.
 

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Don't take it to the shop and do maintenance yourself ? Only way to make sure they don't do that.
I'm surprised it took 10 posts for this statement.
He's right though. If someone is going to do it you can not really stop it from happening.
You might be able to prove it happened (dash cam, etc) or limit what they can do (MyKey, tune, etc) but none of that stops the possibility of it happening.
If you want it to never happen then never give a key to anyone.
Otherwise you have to hope your trust is not misplaced and be prepared to take whatever action is necessary if it happens.
 

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When I take my 2020 Bullitt in for an oil change I do the following:
1. Write down the kilometres.
2. Let the service person know I’ve recorded the kilometres.
3. Request the service person records on the work order that “no test drive is required”.
That seems to work at my Ford dealership.
Good luck! 🫣
 

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Hard wire dashcam, set up my key at least they can't take full advantage of speed and other things, let them know see you took pictures of odometer and leave a post it on dash of milage but you need to trust the dealership you use.
 

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When I take my 2020 Bullitt in for an oil change I do the following:
1. Write down the kilometres.
2. Let the service person know I’ve recorded the kilometres.
3. Request the service person records on the work order that “no test drive is required”.
That seems to work at my Ford dealership.
Good luck! 🫣
I do this when taking my car in for alignments. “No test drives!”
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