Help! Does anyone know this 2015 Race Red Roush Mustang?

[gvincent1209]

How did you verify the block is from a 2015 Fusion? Did you figure that out yourself through Google or something? Are you just trusting what someone else told you?

The mount bolt doesn't mean anything, there could be another explanation for that. And "there is an oil leak near that area" doesn't make any sense.

You said it was a "closed deck", how do you know that?

I don't "know" it is closed deck. I also don't know a lot about this motor. We searched the vin and found a salvage fusion with 138k miles that matched. Again, lot of unknowns with this car. The only things I know for sure is that no one wants to touch it. Tell me what you think based on this pic.. shouldn't that bottom hole have a bolt? Look above at the top bold.. see the weld? What on earth did they do!?

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[wingnutt]

A) swap it back (cheapest option)
B) trade it in, but disclose it (karmas a bitch)
C) bring it over for some 50BMG fun (personal fav)

 

[KingKona]

I don't "know" it is closed deck. I also don't know a lot about this motor. We searched the vin and found a salvage fusion with 138k miles that matched. Again, lot of unknowns with this car. The only things I know for sure is that no one wants to touch it. Tell me what you think based on this pic..

I don't know if you took one, but a better pic with a visible VIN would be a start. And then what the car's VIN is.

I can't make out anything from that pic.

 

[Skraight!]

I didn't read through the entire thread, but coming from the Focus RS crowd previously a lot of people run these blocks when they blew the stock short block as it was stronger.

There are a couple places on the 2.0 block that need to be "plugged" or welded from what I remember which may be what you see.

Usually they use the 2.3 internals, so they may have just used the block as it was cheap from the junkyard. For a while they were on national backorder new.

 

[gvincent1209]

I didn't read through the entire thread, but coming from the Focus RS crowd previously a lot of people run these blocks when they blew the stock short block as it was stronger.

There are a couple places on the 2.0 block that need to be "plugged" or welded from what I remember which may be what you see.

Usually they use the 2.3 internals, so they may have just used the block as it was cheap from the junkyard. For a while they were on national backorder new.

You might be right. This is why I said in the beginning it might of been done intentionally. I just wish I knew for sure what I was dealing with.

 

[ORRadtech]

You might be right. This is why I said in the beginning it might of been done intentionally. I just wish I knew for sure what I was dealing with.

Short of a miracle or tearing the engine down I doubt you'll ever know.
You say it's running fine now with an oil leak. Fix the leak- or don't - and keep it until your situation is more advantageous.
Or trade it now and take the fiscal hit.
Or change the motor, either now or later.
You're obviously in an unenviable position but it could be tons worse.

 

[gvincent1209]

Short of a miracle or tearing the engine down I doubt you'll ever know.
You say it's running fine now with an oil leak. Fix the leak- or don't - and keep it until your situation is more advantageous.
Or trade it now and take the fiscal hit.
Or change the motor, either now or later.
You're obviously in an unenviable position but it could be tons worse.

You said it! Was just taking a long shot that maybe someone in the community would know of the car since praying ain't going to work

 

[hlfbkd420]

You said it! Was just taking a long shot that maybe someone in the community would know of the car since praying ain't going to work

sounds like everyone around here would never consider taking the motor out a rental car to put in their broken one

did roush do anything with this car? send them your vin.

Good luck man.

 

[gvincent1209]

sounds like everyone around here would never consider taking the motor out a rental car to put in their broken one

did roush do anything with this car? send them your vin.

Good luck man.

The Roush package for the RS1 was just cosmetic and bolt on parts. Exhaust was probably the only real performance part. Everything else was for looks. I didn't buy new and probably wouldn't pay an $8k premium but pre-owned was a nice bonus until I found out what I was dealing with, but this was not ford's problem or Roush's problem.

 

[PoCoBob]

Can you get a decent view of the full casting number on the block? If so Ford must be able to give you the year and type of car it was first put in. I tried a google search to decode casting number and the sites I found all focused on the 1960's through the 1990's.

 

[gvincent1209]

Can you get a decent view of the full casting number on the block? If so Ford must be able to give you the year and type of car it was first put in. I tried a google search to decode casting number and the sites I found all focused on the 1960's through the 1990's.

I don't but I do have the print out ford gave me of the vin of the donor car which was a 2015 ford fusion fwd 2.0T. And judging by what I was told by the mechanics and looking at the motor mounts it seems correct.

 

[PoCoBob]

I don't but I do have the print out ford gave me of the vin of the donor car which was a 2015 ford fusion fwd 2.0T. And judging by what I was told by the mechanics and looking at the motor mounts it seems correct.

So I'm a bit confused. If you have the donor car VIN number can't you track what it is exactly? From what I know even savage yards have to record VIN numbers in case of getting stolen cars.

One of the members here on the forum can get you the window sticker if you give him the VIN number. Unfortunetly I don't remember the members name.

Also, is there any rush getting this resloved? I'm sure if you put the word out you're in need of a 2.3 ecoboost engine with a complete history one will come available long before what you have fails completely. It's a crappy thing that got dumped on you but it sounds like the car is still usable.

 

[tdstuart]

I would just keep the car for a while.

Try to fix any immediate issues and do some more digging on what kind of engine you actually have in the car now.

My guess is someone blew up their original engine, swapped in a different engine and made it fit, then sold the car because they didn't want to deal with it.

Does anyone know if there is a way to find previous owners of cars? Maybe the OP could try and contact them.

 

[gvincent1209]

I would just keep the car for a while.

Try to fix any immediate issues and do some more digging on what kind of engine you actually have in the car now.

My guess is someone blew up their original engine, swapped in a different engine and made it fit, then sold the car because they didn't want to deal with it.

Does anyone know if there is a way to find previous owners of cars? Maybe the OP could try and contact them.

I did try to find out who the owners were because the carfax doesn't tell you personal information about the owner but I called a couple of the dealers on the carfax and none would divulge any personal information on the owners so it was a dead end.

 

[gvincent1209]

So I'm a bit confused. If you have the donor car VIN number can't you track what it is exactly? From what I know even savage yards have to record VIN numbers in case of getting stolen cars.

One of the members here on the forum can get you the window sticker if you give him the VIN number. Unfortunetly I don't remember the members name.

Also, is there any rush getting this resloved? I'm sure if you put the word out you're in need of a 2.3 ecoboost engine with a complete history one will come available long before what you have fails completely. It's a crappy thing that got dumped on you but it sounds like the car is still usable.

The vin tells me that it is a fusion 2.0T block. But beyond that how do I know if it's stock? I stuck a borescope down into the cylinders and took pics. I was told it wasn't stock but it also has stock cams ( verified by me ) and stock intercooler, wastegate and turbo. So the question is - if you got a salvage block and built it up for performance wouldn't you also have an aftermarket intercooler/turbo/wastegate and possible cams? I know I would. So it's very questionable to me. But to your question there is no real rush while it's running.

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