Car and Driver review...WTF!!

[Dave2013M3]

I know they mentioned that the tires were worn but the MPH at the end of the 1/4 mile wasn't any better, the 2019 manual has the shitty ratios of the MT82D4. Why would they test this car with such worn rubber? Also, I think the handling package wheels and tires weigh a ton. Some lighter wheels would help a lot in this case from the amount of rotational mass this car has to haul around.

2019 Mustang GT PP2 Manual on the left, the GT350 on the right

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[ChitownStang]

Just like every other test of the Mach 1 and the ordering process with Ford.... FUBAR!
If you have one, enjoy it as we know its's a special car!

 

[Zelek]

The Mach 1 Handling Pack is not a drag racing car. I don't know why people care so much about magazine times. It's a road course car.

 

[Dave2013M3]

The Mach 1 Handling Pack is not a drag racing car. I don't know why people care so much about magazine times. It's a road course car.

Ahh, nice diversion. Neither is the GT3 that was tested in C&D yet it is still tested for all the test parameters.

 

[Zelek]

Ahh, nice diversion. Neither is the GT3 that was tested in C&D yet it is still tested for all the test parameters.

Even a Toyota Prius is 0-60 tested and 1/4 mile tested.

The handling pack wheels weigh around 31 lbs. A lot of aftermarket options are in the 25 lbs range.

 

[Dave2013M3]

Even a Toyota Prius is 0-60 tested and 1/4 mile tested.

The handling pack wheels weigh around 31 lbs. A lot of aftermarket options are in the 25 lbs range.

I have my eye on a White 2021 Mach1 at my dealership...I am shocked because no one wants it. I can get $2k knocked off MSRP. Its a base Mach1, I would like to switch out my SVE X500 wheels from my car now to that car if they will allow me. These are 24lbs front and 23.1lbs rear in 19X10 and 19X11. They will offer me a great deal for my 2020 GT PP1 300a car, pretty much what I paid for it during Covid. What is stopping me is I got 0% interest for 6 years on the 2020 GT and I add another $20K in debt...don't know if its worth it. I just want the coolers and the Tremec.

 

[Zelek]

I have my eye on a White 2021 Mach1 at my dealership...I am shocked because no one wants it. I can get $2k knocked off MSRP. Its a base Mach1, I would like to switch out my SVE X500 wheels from my car now to that car if they will allow me. These are 24lbs front and 23.1lbs rear in 19X10 and 19X11. They will offer me a great deal for my 2020 GT PP1 300a car, pretty much what I paid for it during Covid. What is stopping me is I got 0% interest for 6 years on the 2020 GT and I add another $20K in debt...don't know if its worth it. I just want the coolers and the Tremec.

It's not that much of a difference than what you're coming from power wise. Magneride, Tremec, and coolers is mostly what you're getting. Coolers and the Tremec can be done for less than 20k. I think the decision is harder for anyone who has a Gen3 Coyote. I had a Gen2 so this was a clear upgrade from what I had and I got what I paid for my 2017 brand new 4 years ago.

 

[Atlas1]

I’m confident that if all variables were controlled, the Mach 1 is dead even with a PP2 if not ahead of it by a tenth or two. It has a couple extra lbs but a slight power advantage and better trans.
OP don’t worry about the magazine times. Go get that white one. You’ll love it

 

[Ewheels]

I'm not sure what the point of this thread is supposed to be....
Are you saying you think the Mach 1 should have performed better than what is shown? Seems pretty accurate to me.
20 more hp than the PP2 but more weight. And they both have cast wheels so they both heavy

 

[WCRookie99]

M1 turns a 11.89

 

[ChitownStang]

M1 turns a 11.9362

Exactly! this car has not been fully tested over enough different cars in different conditions to get accurate #'s of what it can really do.
The car is badass.

 

[Dave2013M3]

M1 turns a 11.89

Evan ran better times in an auto 2018 GT than what he ran with the Mach, although vet close.

 

[Zelek]

Won't matter what your times look like when your diff overheats after 2 laps on a course.

 

[SmokinAces]

your diff overheats after 2 laps on a course.

plz don’t remind me.

 

[Bikeman315]

I'm not sure what the point of this thread is supposed to be....
Are you saying you think the Mach 1 should have performed better than what is shown? Seems pretty accurate to me.
20 more hp than the PP2 but more weight. And they both have cast wheels so they both heavy

Well magazines do what they do, compare things. It was a fun read but it wouldn’t deter me from buying a M1 if I wanted one.

What I don’t get is why everyone, who doesn’t own one, keeps talking about the Tremec and coolers. Yes, those are the big mechanical differences but a M1 is so much more than that.

As Gumby would say……”It’s a Mach 1, damn it”. You either get it or you don’t.

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