Chef jpd
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On my 2020, all 3 bulbs back there were incandescent. First mod I did was swap those to LED.Is the rear fog light LED now? On my 2017, it's not, nor are the front fogs.
I think they everyone with an 18+ who's come out of the woodwork to tell me that they prefer the 15-17 front end is just really excited at the prospect that I might call them all unicorns
Why does every Mustang owner in Australia have to do something to change the appearance of the vehicle? It's fine as it is, I wish more people would just stick with the stock appearance. That said, that photo shows an angle you've chosen - we see almost none of the front, and you've lowered it as well.So here is a picture of my my19. I think it looks a million times better than the 15-17 shape, but I guess I'm biased.
You're stating an opinion, which is fine, allowed, and you're absolutely entitled to. However, car enthusiasts from any part of the world, Australia included, have a right to modify their car as they see fit, and there is nothing wrong with that either. Styling is purely subjective, and if an owner sees any part of the original design they would like to tweak, customize, etc., there's nothing telling them should not, aside from an opinion from someone else.Why does every Mustang owner in Australia have to do something to change the appearance of the vehicle? It's fine as it is, I wish more people would just stick with the stock appearance.
Again, there's subjectivity here, and to play devil's advocate, the turn signal on the MY18+ from an objective standpoint is brighter, longer, and each pulse of the turn signal or 4-way flasher (hazard) is more easily seen due to the LEDs, than the old incandescent bulb unit.The turn signals on the side are enclosed in a very odd shaped triangular housing. The area underneath the grille is empty and pointless - we have one long uninterrupted bit of painted plastic at the bottom, with nothing in the black area above it. Looks boring and empty.
Again, a lot of this subjective, but this depends on the view of the car. The design and upper crease that flanks both sides of the bonnet/hood, and how they converge slightly as it moves away from the A pillar, adds a certain curvature and downward slope to the hood, making it less of a long straight board, which the 15-17 models don't have such a curve. In some pictures from some angles, specifically the front 3/4 on the 15-17, the hood crease is this long, straight line coming from the A pillar, which appears to not match the rest of the car's greenhouse, A pillar backward.Bonnet of the facelift? Not muscular. Aggressive, maybe. A bee can be aggressive, but not muscular.
I have no problem if a 15-17 owner comes up to me and says that they prefer THEIR front end better. I have a problem when someone that doesn't even own a mustang comes up to me and says that I effed up because the 15-17's are so much nicer looking than my '19, and then they get in their paint-faded, white 1996 BMW 5 series with chrome door edge guards around door edges and gas cap, and a BIG BMW windshield decal and drive off.
Please?
I'm pretty sure that in the US market, there was no such thing as a 1996 5-series. 1995 was the last year of the E34 in the US, while 1997 was the first model year for the new E39I have no problem if a 15-17 owner comes up to me and says that they prefer THEIR front end better. I have a problem when someone that doesn't even own a mustang comes up to me and says that I effed up because the 15-17's are so much nicer looking than my '19, and then they get in their paint-faded, white 1996 BMW 5 series with chrome door edge guards around door edges and gas cap, and a BIG BMW windshield decal and drive off.
agreed.Why does every Mustang owner in Australia have to do something to change the appearance of the vehicle? It's fine as it is, I wish more people would just stick with the stock appearance. That said, that photo shows an angle you've chosen - we see almost none of the front, and you've lowered it as well.
Have you noticed most dealers selling used ones, don't take photos directly from the front with the facelift version, whereas they do more often with the pre-facelift?
The front of the my18 is totally dominated by that big grille. Not good. It's just too much... black. Wasted space. Most cars that have big grilles are trucks and SUVs, and they have chrome bars or other styling elements to make it look interesting. This is a big grille with nothing to make it interesting.
The turn signals on the side are enclosed in a very odd shaped triangular housing. The area underneath the grille is empty and pointless - we have one long uninterrupted bit of painted plastic at the bottom, with nothing in the black area above it. Looks boring and empty.
On the my15, the lower bumper complements the styling of the upper bumper, there's a connection there. There's no connection between lower and upper on the facelift - it's just a mixture of odd angles and shapes that makes no sense at all.
Now looking at the bonnet. Look at the windscreen of each car. On the pre-facelift, we can see part of the bulge of the bonnet in front of the windscreen. Looks muscular. When someone sees that in their rear view mirror, it stands out because few other cars have that. When you're in the driver's seat, you see it too of course.
Bonnet of the facelift? Not muscular. Aggressive, maybe. A bee can be aggressive, but not muscular. I'll admit, the intakes look good on the facelift, but we missed out on them in Australia on the pre-facelift. That's a separate issue. Other than that, there are no interesting design features of the new bonnet - it's just mostly flat and boring. It curves downwards too much at the front. Notice how in the my15, the whole front is more upright and "solid" looking, while on the my18 it all just droops downwards at the front.
Anyway, I could go on, but that covers the main points.