Selling GT350R for new Porsche 718 Spyder?

[honeybadger]

This is why I like my "slow" cars a lot, and drive them a lot more. The Fiesta ST and the 993 can be pushed around on the road without people thinking you're some sort of terror. Some of the most fun I've ever had in street driving was with my old Mk2 VW GTI ... 100 HP, ~2200 lbs, and 175mm tires. Could drive it like you were on a track at all times and no one would even know.

This is what I liked about the Miata. I just didn't like being on the road with others in a Miata...especially here in TX.

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[RPDBlueMoon]

Ford will not have a warehouse full of engines. However Ford and the the aftermarket will have rebuild parts for however long as they are selling.

I think federal law has a say in how long replacement parts are available.

I know people with Vincent Motorcycles in this boat. Polaris has to keep parts in the system but I don't know how long, for some reason I think 15 years.

I get the anxiety.

Are people still able to get some of the original engines from the old Mustangs like the '70 Boss 302 or the 67' GT500 with the 428?

 

[MNGT350]

Yeah. I love my GT350, but I don’t think I’m going to buy any car like it again.

It is sort of weird to say that a fiesta ST would be more fun 95% of the time. But I think it’s likely true.

 

[HEP#15]

^
I also live in TX and have a Miata RF.....so I hear you about being on the road with TX drivers in a roadster.

 

[Rusherific]

^
I also live in TX and have a Miata RF.....so I hear you about being on the road with TX drivers in a roadster.

I can't imagine what it would be like to be driving next to something with tires taller than your eye level

 

[308 Cal. Bullitt]

Long before the internet. Article was wrote in a news paper bout the last verbally spoken words dying people tend to say.

2 vastly diff types of dying.
Slow & immediate.
Ex;
Slow death = cancer
Immediate death = plane crash
(cockpit recorders & other devices hav caught these "last words in sudden death").

Forget bout the actual article I speak of. As it is so old & without a "link" to it. Nobody today (not anyone born after 1990) gives a chit if U cant find it online.

Do you think anyone's last words are something like;

"I wish I had driven my expensive sports car much less miles than I actually did?"...
..." before I sold it as well" ???

Unless ur nukkin phutts? Im putting my money on NO!

Once U answer that ?? for real. U likely do not hav much grasp of how valuable a gift, being on the top side of the dirt is..

& ur lungs taking in ~21% O2 each day..
is such a gift all its own. That said.

Putting objects.. expensive or not.
Including the cars WE ALL LOVE,
on pedestals... Is @ times somewhat ridiculous.

Only someone young, and that has never seen what death really looks like..., in its many forms of its moment..

inside the eyes of someone U give a chit about, could U then possibly place a car so high up..

That it exceeds the feelings or words the dying individual might speak out loud,
once they know death is upon them in a way they grasp as... "too soon" to be ok with.
Isnt that almost always?

We hav got to stop turning things that move-roll-roar-& corner into these metaphorical stacks of gold bullion that should be treated as such.

If its gold brick. Yes. By all means.. Store that chit. What else U gonna do with it??

If it's a '48 Pan Head. Ride that Bone Shaker till U cant hurt from the pain any longer..

& when its a Flipping Mustang w/any V8 in it.

Either drive that turd boiler like It was built to be driven..
or sell that hunk a chit.

But dont buy something built by an American car manufacturer..
To give 'You' something ( after purchase) only most European/Asian cars can deliver.

& then Wuss out.. over driving it & risking knicking the wheels. Ppe the damb things.

I guess U all here are to young to hav seen a org Boss 302 or Boss 429, pull into a gas station.. and get fuel.. like every other car on planet earth. Then start it up, & drive off.

Yeah. If U knew what it wasn U were a bit in Awe. But u never said bk in the day..
"If I owned that Boss, id never drive it."

If ur the same guy who cried about the cost of fuel & tires on the GT500? & sold it.. ??
Hopefully not...

Please sell that thing so someone can actually enjoy it. If your not gonna be that guy.
Thank God U dont deserve to win the
'2020 Double Duesch' award..
if ur not 1 who sold the gt500 & now a 350r.

I dont blame U for coveting a beautiful car. But if #001 was so important to own to start with? Why for Pete's Sake was it so important.
Try'n to turn what people live to own 1 day.. into a profit center.??

95% of the guys who dont own 1 here, wont ever own that car.

Not even cuz many cant afford it.
But maybe their kids college fund,
or wifes kidney transplant,
was just more important to them than a GT350r.
I could've bought 1. Great car w/1 design flaw.. a flaw I learned long ago was a headache to me.
Still an awesome car. Beautiful car. Magnificent..

But dont come around askin to be talked out of owning, what bunch of these guys dream of owning.
Although.. Its not likely ur fault. To feel like you do.

Its that U likely havnt seen enuff travesty to realize you wont say late in life,
how glad U were U never hav knicked up those wheels on a car U havnt owned in decades.. & so glad U sold it while it brought top dollar.

Any idea how many guys would trade EVERY DOLLAR they hav.. for 1 last.. pain free day of living?
Including the dollars they saved by selling sports cars they owned... & SOLD..
before they got a scratch on whls...!! ??

Im sure this will fall on deaf ears. Largely because most cannot relate to the value of life vs the value of a damb car.

U bought it to bring u some joy. Well. If selling it brings you the most joy.

Send it dwn the road. If ur worries are eng related.

Just deal w/it. We had to deal w/every hi hp eng having its diwn falls thru out history.
I shouldn't hav to name them all..

Just call pit to Sonny's & tell Jim U need a billet crank made for a 5.2L thats a 90°,
& NOT A 180°.
Call Carillo or Pankel & get urself some real rods.
Diamond/Wiseco will gladly do pistons..
& even w/hard anodized coating.
Billet even.
A set a good valve springs,
& now Ur a 9000 rpm redline mill,
that will go 30k miles, runnin it like a hound dog during Coon hunting season.

U dont hav to be dying 1 day...
saying put loud or quietlyn how glad U were U only put only 1600 miles on your dream car, before you sold it.
Run that thing like Ford intended...
or why even buy it? Someone said. Uy a warranty. Ok. Sure..

Unless its just all about attention U got w/ulit & u cant milk it anymore to ur liking..

& U feel U hav sucked the marrow out of the
(look at me w/this rare car & #1 production tag)
bones of its ownership, @ 1600 miles??
(Umm.. noo.)
Then as said earlier and now again. Sell it.

Let the next guy in 40 yrs, worry bout the restoration on it. Just like every damb Boss 429 car that had to be resurrected from 50 yrs ago.

U should already know why most all those 50 yr old muscle cars had to get redone?
Maybe.. just maybe.. Cause the owners used the things till they shelled themselves.

Built um yet again after a blow up.
& gave it another go. Often w/no warranty.

Heres what U wanna hear.
"Go buy the Spyder".
& Once nobody will faun over the Spyder any longer. Get on a Porsche message board, & ask um to talk U out of selling it cause its of its-- ( fill in blank).

To all U guys who dream of owning 1 of these cars, which can be an impractical daily driver..
( no argument there. 1 reason I didn't buy 1. Not my idea of a daily.. got to many cars that sit to much already.. problem is.. nobody else wants um..)

I hope you guys who dont own a R find a way to own 1 in ur lifetime. Even if U buy 1 -- 20/30 yrs from now..

Hopefully it will only hav ~5000 miles on it, as all other owners were just saving the best days of that machine.. for you.

Hey. U never now what the future will bring. Someone reading this today will say to themselves .. "I will never own a GT350R in my life."
& Id never bet against that at least 1 of U saying those words will being wrong!!
On that statement of ownership, before you take your own dirt nap.

Leave car collecting to the Leno's & Pratt's.
Do something they will NEVER do.

Drive every car U own, like U wish U had.
& do it legally! Or on a track.
Or sell it now,
so the next guy can live a dream.

Phuck dis posting crap..
Im going to take my car for a drive right now.
Tomorrow may not come for me..
& I dont want my last words to include
"I wish Id drove my car 1 less time after wrkin my azz off to buy it"

 

[Strokerswild]

Are people still able to get some of the original engines from the old Mustangs like the '70 Boss 302 or the 67' GT500 with the 428?

Not through Ford....

 

[HEP#15]

It's like riding a motorcycle - you have to be very conscious of your surroundings. Especially give that TX drivers are aggress and in general not good drivers and the speed limits are 75-80 on most highways especially here in Austin.

 

[car crazy]

I'm thinking there are a lot of people in this thread who are not familiar with the 718 Spyder which is essentially a convertible GT4. This is not a run of the mill Porsche. It will likely be less common than a GT350R and may very likely run with a GT350R at the track. The 718 Spyder and GT4 are related to the Cayman / Boxster in the same way the GT350 and GT350R are related to the Mustang GT. I'm reading a lot of people comparing the GT350R to a standard Cayman or Boxster which is like comparing a Mustang GT to a GT3. The 718 Spyder is far superior to the Boxster and Cayman and even the average 911 (with the exception of the Turbo, Turbo S, GT3, GT3RS).

All that said, the tall gearing of the GT350 is not as fun as it should be on the street and is the one thing that drives me nuts about the GT350. The manual GT4 / 718 Spyder have the exact same problem. I can't believe I'm going to say this but I would opt for a 718 Spyder or GT4 with a PDK because it does not have the problem with uber tall gearing. That said, I'd get the 718 Spyder and keep the GT350R for a while. If that is not possible, I'd be very tempted to trade the GT350R on a GT4 or 718 Spyder. I'd miss the fantastic exhaust note though. Even with an aftermarket exhaust on the 718 Spyder's fantastic 8000RPM motor, it will not sound like a GT350.

 

[stanglife]

Long before the internet. Article was wrote in a news paper bout the last verbally spoken words dying people tend to say.

2 vastly diff types of dying.
Slow & immediate.
Ex;
Slow death = cancer
Immediate death = plane crash
(cockpit recorders & other devices hav caught these "last words in sudden death").

Forget bout the actual article I speak of. As it is so old & without a "link" to it. Nobody today (not anyone born after 1990) gives a chit if U cant find it online.

Do you think anyone's last words are something like;

"I wish I had driven my expensive sports car much less miles than I actually did?"...
..." before I sold it as well" ???

Unless ur nukkin phutts? Im putting my money on NO!

Once U answer that ?? for real. U likely do not hav much grasp of how valuable a gift, being on the top side of the dirt is..

& ur lungs taking in ~21% O2 each day..
is such a gift all its own. That said.

Putting objects.. expensive or not.
Including the cars WE ALL LOVE,
on pedestals... Is @ times somewhat ridiculous.

Only someone young, and that has never seen what death really looks like..., in its many forms of its moment..

inside the eyes of someone U give a chit about, could U then possibly place a car so high up..

That it exceeds the feelings or words the dying individual might speak out loud,
once they know death is upon them in a way they grasp as... "too soon" to be ok with.
Isnt that almost always?

We hav got to stop turning things that move-roll-roar-& corner into these metaphorical stacks of gold bullion that should be treated as such.

If its gold brick. Yes. By all means.. Store that chit. What else U gonna do with it??

If it's a '48 Pan Head. Ride that Bone Shaker till U cant hurt from the pain any longer..

& when its a Flipping Mustang w/any V8 in it.

Either drive that turd boiler like It was built to be driven..
or sell that hunk a chit.

But dont buy something built by an American car manufacturer..
To give 'You' something ( after purchase) only most European/Asian cars can deliver.

^^I read THIS much, that was a long one but is so true.

 

[CoolHandLuke]

Long before the internet. Article was wrote in a news paper bout the last verbally spoken words dying people tend to say.

2 vastly diff types of dying.
Slow & immediate.
Ex;
Slow death = cancer
Immediate death = plane crash
(cockpit recorders & other devices hav caught these "last words in sudden death").

Forget bout the actual article I speak of. As it is so old & without a "link" to it. Nobody today (not anyone born after 1990) gives a chit if U cant find it online.

Do you think anyone's last words are something like;

"I wish I had driven my expensive sports car much less miles than I actually did?"...
..." before I sold it as well" ???

Unless ur nukkin phutts? Im putting my money on NO!

Once U answer that ?? for real. U likely do not hav much grasp of how valuable a gift, being on the top side of the dirt is..

& ur lungs taking in ~21% O2 each day..
is such a gift all its own. That said.

Putting objects.. expensive or not.
Including the cars WE ALL LOVE,
on pedestals... Is @ times somewhat ridiculous.

Only someone young, and that has never seen what death really looks like..., in its many forms of its moment..

inside the eyes of someone U give a chit about, could U then possibly place a car so high up..

That it exceeds the feelings or words the dying individual might speak out loud,
once they know death is upon them in a way they grasp as... "too soon" to be ok with.
Isnt that almost always?

We hav got to stop turning things that move-roll-roar-& corner into these metaphorical stacks of gold bullion that should be treated as such.

If its gold brick. Yes. By all means.. Store that chit. What else U gonna do with it??

If it's a '48 Pan Head. Ride that Bone Shaker till U cant hurt from the pain any longer..

& when its a Flipping Mustang w/any V8 in it.

Either drive that turd boiler like It was built to be driven..
or sell that hunk a chit.

But dont buy something built by an American car manufacturer..
To give 'You' something ( after purchase) only most European/Asian cars can deliver.

& then Wuss out.. over driving it & risking knicking the wheels. Ppe the damb things.

I guess U all here are to young to hav seen a org Boss 302 or Boss 429, pull into a gas station.. and get fuel.. like every other car on planet earth. Then start it up, & drive off.

Yeah. If U knew what it wasn U were a bit in Awe. But u never said bk in the day..
"If I owned that Boss, id never drive it."

If ur the same guy who cried about the cost of fuel & tires on the GT500? & sold it.. ??
Hopefully not...

Please sell that thing so someone can actually enjoy it. If your not gonna be that guy.
Thank God U dont deserve to win the
'2020 Double Duesch' award..
if ur not 1 who sold the gt500 & now a 350r.

I dont blame U for coveting a beautiful car. But if #001 was so important to own to start with? Why for Pete's Sake was it so important.
Try'n to turn what people live to own 1 day.. into a profit center.??

95% of the guys who dont own 1 here, wont ever own that car.

Not even cuz many cant afford it.
But maybe their kids college fund,
or wifes kidney transplant,
was just more important to them than a GT350r.
I could've bought 1. Great car w/1 design flaw.. a flaw I learned long ago was a headache to me.
Still an awesome car. Beautiful car. Magnificent..

But dont come around askin to be talked out of owning, what bunch of these guys dream of owning.
Although.. Its not likely ur fault. To feel like you do.

Its that U likely havnt seen enuff travesty to realize you wont say late in life,
how glad U were U never hav knicked up those wheels on a car U havnt owned in decades.. & so glad U sold it while it brought top dollar.

Any idea how many guys would trade EVERY DOLLAR they hav.. for 1 last.. pain free day of living?
Including the dollars they saved by selling sports cars they owned... & SOLD..
before they got a scratch on whls...!! ??

Im sure this will fall on deaf ears. Largely because most cannot relate to the value of life vs the value of a damb car.

U bought it to bring u some joy. Well. If selling it brings you the most joy.

Send it dwn the road. If ur worries are eng related.

Just deal w/it. We had to deal w/every hi hp eng having its diwn falls thru out history.
I shouldn't hav to name them all..

Just call pit to Sonny's & tell Jim U need a billet crank made for a 5.2L thats a 90°,
& NOT A 180°.
Call Carillo or Pankel & get urself some real rods.
Diamond/Wiseco will gladly do pistons..
& even w/hard anodized coating.
Billet even.
A set a good valve springs,
& now Ur a 9000 rpm redline mill,
that will go 30k miles, runnin it like a hound dog during Coon hunting season.

U dont hav to be dying 1 day...
saying put loud or quietlyn how glad U were U only put only 1600 miles on your dream car, before you sold it.
Run that thing like Ford intended...
or why even buy it? Someone said. Uy a warranty. Ok. Sure..

Unless its just all about attention U got w/ulit & u cant milk it anymore to ur liking..

& U feel U hav sucked the marrow out of the
(look at me w/this rare car & #1 production tag)
bones of its ownership, @ 1600 miles??
(Umm.. noo.)
Then as said earlier and now again. Sell it.

Let the next guy in 40 yrs, worry bout the restoration on it. Just like every damb Boss 429 car that had to be resurrected from 50 yrs ago.

U should already know why most all those 50 yr old muscle cars had to get redone?
Maybe.. just maybe.. Cause the owners used the things till they shelled themselves.

Built um yet again after a blow up.
& gave it another go. Often w/no warranty.

Heres what U wanna hear.
"Go buy the Spyder".
& Once nobody will faun over the Spyder any longer. Get on a Porsche message board, & ask um to talk U out of selling it cause its of its-- ( fill in blank).

To all U guys who dream of owning 1 of these cars, which can be an impractical daily driver..
( no argument there. 1 reason I didn't buy 1. Not my idea of a daily.. got to many cars that sit to much already.. problem is.. nobody else wants um..)

I hope you guys who dont own a R find a way to own 1 in ur lifetime. Even if U buy 1 -- 20/30 yrs from now..

Hopefully it will only hav ~5000 miles on it, as all other owners were just saving the best days of that machine.. for you.

Hey. U never now what the future will bring. Someone reading this today will say to themselves .. "I will never own a GT350R in my life."
& Id never bet against that at least 1 of U saying those words will being wrong!!
On that statement of ownership, before you take your own dirt nap.

Leave car collecting to the Leno's & Pratt's.
Do something they will NEVER do.

Drive every car U own, like U wish U had.
& do it legally! Or on a track.
Or sell it now,
so the next guy can live a dream.

Phuck dis posting crap..
Im going to take my car for a drive right now.
Tomorrow may not come for me..
& I dont want my last words to include
"I wish Id drove my car 1 less time after wrkin my azz off to buy it"

Thanks for the feedback sir! I think I understand your point. I wish you good luck!

 

[CoolHandLuke]

I'm thinking there are a lot of people in this thread who are not familiar with the 718 Spyder which is essentially a convertible GT4. This is not a run of the mill Porsche. It will likely be less common than a GT350R and may very likely run with a GT350R at the track. The 718 Spyder and GT4 are related to the Cayman / Boxster in the same way the GT350 and GT350R are related to the Mustang GT. I'm reading a lot of people comparing the GT350R to a standard Cayman or Boxster which is like comparing a Mustang GT to a GT3. The 718 Spyder is far superior to the Boxster and Cayman and even the average 911 (with the exception of the Turbo, Turbo S, GT3, GT3RS).

All that said, the tall gearing of the GT350 is not as fun as it should be on the street and is the one thing that drives me nuts about the GT350. The manual GT4 / 718 Spyder have the exact same problem. I can't believe I'm going to say this but I would opt for a 718 Spyder or GT4 with a PDK because it does not have the problem with uber tall gearing. That said, I'd get the 718 Spyder and keep the GT350R for a while. If that is not possible, I'd be very tempted to trade the GT350R on a GT4 or 718 Spyder. I'd miss the fantastic exhaust note though. Even with an aftermarket exhaust on the 718 Spyder's fantastic 8000RPM motor, it will not sound like a GT350.

Thanks for the feedback sir. Yet another good perspective. True, most here don't know what the 718 Spyder is or understand its mission statement. I had the 987 Spyder nearly ten years ago and foolishly sold it for a new M3...big mistake. I've been carefully observing the evolution of the car to its current state and yes, it can absolutely hang with the GT350 at the track, it's super fun to drive and easy on the eyes for sure. You called it about the rare factor- I never see them on the road. Still debating the hefty price tag, wondering if it's worth the additional money.

To be clear, as good as the PDK is, the day I'm ok with not rowing my own gears is the day they throw dirt on me!

 

[jMB350R]

Thanks for the feedback sir! I think I understand your point. I wish you good luck!

Funny I just saw this post. I have a 2021 718 on order. Fortunate to have 2019 350R and 2020 500CFTP, but like you I feel I will drive the 718 on a regular basis. I plan on keeping both and use the 718 as a regular driver at least when weather permits in NE Ohio.

 

[dpAtlanta]

I have a 2021 718 on order.

Manual or PDK?

 

[jMB350R]

Manual or PDK?

Manual.. Supposedly 2021 is the last year Porsche will import with the Manual. Plus I have have a soft spot for a manual on a sports car. The only thing I went out of the Box on my order was the upgraded seats (18 way). the Carbon fiber option makes driving the 350R a Joy.

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