Installing supercharger yourself, whos done it?

[Jordan @ Lethal]

Honestly, It's a good bit more work but the CS and OP gears aren't too daunting. All of you successfully installing these kits without error, it is within your talents.

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[Andrew@Lethal]

So I'm pretty technically inclined, have a pretty good set of tools, 3 car garage so plenty of space, as well as a daily I can drive so I won't be pressed for time. I would like to install a setup myself, with a tune from one of the reputable, moderate tune outfits.

My question is this:

How difficult is it really?
How clear are the instructions?
Which set up should I go with for the most moderate power numbers..600 or so hp thats still one of the easier DIY setups?

I have a 2018 gt 6sp, and like I said, I'm not looking for crazy hp numbers. I read i can run my stock injectors and I would like to keep as much stock as is safe

Any input would be much appreciated!

It is not that bad of an install. If you want a simple installation I would consider a centrifugal blower like a procharger or paxton/vortech. I am a bit biased towards a roots style like a whipple because I drive a Terminator and a Lightning so I really like the Whipple and Vmp kits. We sell them all here at www.lethalperformance.com. Give us a call we would be more than happy to answer any questions or get an order placed for you!

 

[Jackson1320]

they do drive like stock as long as you dont just lay in to the throttle. once you press the throttle aggressively..then its a different story.

if you are nearby me in California you can come test for yourself if you'd like.

Where you at? How much peddle do you have to give it before you see boost?

 

[turbofiveoh]

Installing the supercharger and/or oil pump gears is not a difficult job...it's very tedious and requires common sense and attention to detail. How you route vacuum and coolant lines, where you relocate wires, how you bend brackets, do you take the time to properly torque fasteners, etc. will ultimately dictate if you have a reliable and trouble free install or a basketcase.

I've done a few supercharger and oil pump gear installs and I would encourage anybody who is even somewhat mechanically inclined to do the job themselves. The worst part of the oil pump gear install is, hands down, reinstalling the pickup tube bolt. Some very generous people have taken the time to create detailed step by step instructions and post them online for everybody's benefit.

What it all boils down to is your confidence in yourself.

 

[Adamone92]

Where you at? How much peddle do you have to give it before you see boost?

Im at vandenberg afb on the central coast. I go to santa barbara and san luis obispo often

I havent logged the exact throttle position..but id say below 40-50% throttle and it's pretty tame.

 

[khalismatic]

I recently installed a VMP Odin Kit for my '15 -'17. It took me roughly 3 days since I gave myself ample time in order to do things at a slow and steady pace. I wanted to make sure, without a doubt, that everything I did was to the T!

I would highly suggest, if going for a PD blower, that you find one that doesn't require you to modify the valley or really do any metal grinding. I like VMP's new setup as I didn't have to do any of that so it may the installation a breeze. It is time consuming however, your success is truly rewarded by the amount of prep you put into the install. Verify, VERIFY, VERIFY your parts list once you get the kit. Do that by comparing the listed parts to what you received, and if you find an installation video on Youtube, watch it over and over again to see if there are items you are missing. VMP has a full length, from start to finish video on how to complete the installation of their blowers. I'm not sure if ProCharger does, but many people have installation videos so you will get an idea of what you are up against.

ALSO! I HIGHLY encourage you to upgrade your crankshaft and oil pump gears now, BEFORE you go FI. You can thank me later for this lol.

 

[WhinRR]

I have read from multiple people that centri’s are prone to false knock on manual cars. I am not sure the relationship between the two. This pushed me the Whipple route

 

[Jordan @ Lethal]

I have read from multiple people that centri’s are prone to false knock on manual cars. I am not sure the relationship between the two. This pushed me the Whipple route

I've heard of this but knock sensors look for a specific frequency and I doubt that the vibrations/rattle from the centri's gear lash will actually cause it to kick in. When people are referring to this, they are often experiencing it at lower RPM which is where timing is often aggressive. Less than perfect fuel is prone to knock in that 1-2K RPM range as well. I've also heard of belt slip causing it. But more times than not it's probably exhaust rattle.

 

[GeigerZ]

Just made a post with my install thoughts and outcome.
Whipple Stage 1 arrived and installed


How difficult is it really? Not really difficult, but paying attention to detail is the key and an understanding of why parts are installed in the order and procedure to get there
How clear are the instructions? Whipple instructions 8/10
Which set up should I go with for the most moderate power numbers..600 or so hp thats still one of the easier DIY setups? Took me a few months to decide and coming from a 2014 GT500, I leaned towards a PD supercharger. For the easier (not that any of them are difficult) setup - Procharger might be the way to go.

 

[msalvoni]

i think this is what some/many guys wrestle with. doing the blower is one thing, doing the opg/cs is out of the comfort zone. but they want it done together.

I get what OPG means oil pump gears but what does CS Stand for?
How serious is this issue with the oil pump gears? would anyone putting a procharger on be a fool to not do this as well?

 

[Beano]

@msalvoni: CS = crank sprocket

 

[msalvoni]

i guess it depends.

i recently did my first supercharger install..vmp odin
i also did my opg/cs on jack stands in the garage at the same time. wasnt too bad..just took time, and watched some videos. boundary actually sent me a crank sprocket marked incorrectly..but i marked it correctly.

i consider myself a fast learner, but i feel like anyone could do it if they prepare ahead of time (instructions..correct tools..etc)..and take their time.

paying for opg install eliminates the argument of it being a cheap extra part to install while you are in there. i learned a lot doing the install as well..which is also very valuable imo

I have seen your posts all around, you seem like you are pretty knowledgeable. If you could go back in time would you still choose the odin over Procharger? How much did it run you?

For a while I was all into getting the whipple stage 2 but honestly after reading this post I am very interested in the pro charger for cost and ease of install.

With a centri are fuel upgrades necassary ? Like is a boost a pump needed or what supporting mods do you have?

 

[msalvoni]

Stage 2 Whipple and OPG/CS in my garage on jack stands. Nothing difficult, with the Whipple and some of the best instructions I’ve dealt with. Nothing hard with the OPG/CS, just anxiety producing since the consequences are high. If you follow the service manual it is not physically hard. Literally just follow directions and don’t get distracted by something else.

I wouldn’t hesitate to do it again, and would recommend anyone with moderate skills do the install them self. Now if this is your DD and you have to complete in a tight time line I wouldn’t do it. The stress of getting it done quickly will cause you to make mistakes. And if all you have ever done is oil changes, best to pay someone whose used to dealing with the unexpected problems.

What service manual are you reffering to ?

 

[Jackson1320]

I have seen your posts all around, you seem like you are pretty knowledgeable. If you could go back in time would you still choose the odin over Procharger? How much did it run you?

For a while I was all into getting the whipple stage 2 but honestly after reading this post I am very interested in the pro charger for cost and ease of install.

With a centri are fuel upgrades necassary ? Like is a boost a pump needed or what supporting mods do you have?

Oil pump gears and crank sprocket are like insurance. You can have it and never need it. But if you do end up needing it you will be glad you did. That being said there’s a 90% chance you will never need them.
procharger is something that the average diy person can install.
depending on hp goal you may or may not need fuel upgrades beyond injectors

 

[msalvoni]

Oil pump gears and crank sprocket are like insurance. You can have it and never need it. But if you do end up needing it you will be glad you did. That being said there’s a 90% chance you will never need them.
procharger is something that the average diy person can install.
depending on hp goal you may or may not need fuel upgrades beyond injectors

Thank you,
are you saying I would definitely need injectors with a procharger?
Any idea what I would need to run e 85?

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