Splitting roof seams near back window, water leaking into rear quarter panels

[ice445]

Many cars will likely have seam sealer cracking in that location, but I'm doubtful many will have it get bad enough to let water into the trunk.

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[Elp_jc]

https://www.mustang6g.com/forums/threads/mmd-roof-spoiler-install-write-up.45961/

Thanks. Well, it attaches to the glass, so it's definitely not going to help with water getting into the channel between roof and glass. And neither it'd hide it better, since it's quite a bit more inward from left to right than it should IMO. Not sure how close to the roof it can be placed at the top, since the 3rd brake light cutout might prevent that. At any rate, not an option at all for my Bullitt, but was just curious. My car has a very small gap from glass to sheetmetal, and no visible issues with the filler (at least not yet), so will leave it alone for now .

 

[SoFla2016PP]

Took car to dealer today, the service advisor looked at the car and basically told me he didn't see anything. Showed him some pictures, and he looked at the car again and repeated that he could not see anything. Then brought a manager over who also said he's been there for however many years (I forgot) and never seen this issue, nor could he see it on my car. They both said to not worry about it. I had an appointment (since I thought I would be dropping the car off and leaving), so I couldn't stay and go back and forth with them. Contemplating now either escalating to Fomoco or just having one of my buddies who owns a body shop remediate it.

 

[SoFla2016PP]

Here are some pictures.

 

[Bikeman315]

Took car to dealer today, the service advisor looked at the car and basically told me he didn't see anything. Showed him some pictures, and he looked at the car again and repeated that he could not see anything. Then brought a manager over who also said he's been there for however many years (I forgot) and never seen this issue, nor could he see it on my car. They both said to not worry about it. I had an appointment (since I thought I would be dropping the car off and leaving), so I couldn't stay and go back and forth with them. Contemplating now either escalating to Fomoco or just having one of my buddies who owns a body shop remediate it.

I see it, but I believe you're looking a surface line in the sealer. One that may or may not go through to the steel structure itself. There is no indication of any structure damage and unless you have a leakage problem Ford will do nothing. If it bothers you get some silicon as previously recommended and cover it.

 

[SoFla2016PP]

I see it, but I believe you're looking a surface line in the sealer. One that may or may not to through to the steel structure itself. There is no indication of any structure damage and unless you have a leakage problem Ford will do nothing. If it bothers you get some silicon as previously recommended and cover it.

Likely what I'll do, I have a couple friends who run high end shops, one is Porsche certified so I may have them look into it just because I'm pretty particular about things.

Probably the only time I've regretted the black roof because that crack goes from the black to the gray haha.

 

[Cobra Jet]

Tell all the folks at your Ford Dealership they need to get an eye exam...

And be sure to tell your Ford CSR that if their eyes are failing too and they can’t see THAT CRACK in the image, then you’ll be certain to let your local News Station’s Investigative Team know how they’re not standing behind manufacturing defects...

It’s apparent the sealant used for the rear body seam sealer is not the proper type, chemical composition or has very low tolerance/resistance to exterior temp changes. If the sealer is cracking like that on multiple products... it’s a manufacturing issue.

 

[SoFla2016PP]

Tell all the folks at your Ford Dealership they need to get an eye exam...

And be sure to tell your Ford CSR that if their eyes are failing too and they can’t see THAT CRACK in the image, then you’ll be certain to let your local News Station’s Investigative Team know how they’re not standing behind manufacturing defects...

It’s apparent the sealant used for the rear body seam sealer is not the proper type, chemical composition or has very low tolerance/resistance to exterior temp changes. If the sealer is cracking like that on multiple products... it’s a manufacturing issue.

Yeah, I will be taking it back, possibly to a different dealer. Nice waste of time.

 

[Elp_jc]

That crack is most likely taking in water already. Probably one of the worst I've seen. Ridiculous anybody saying they can't see anything wrong. Even a legally blind person could see that. Geez.

 

[SoFla2016PP]

Here is from the Ford Website:

Corrosion Warranty
5 years (regardless of mileage)
Your vehicle’s body sheet metal panels or aluminum body panels are covered for an extended Corrosion Coverage Period. Coverage only applies if a body sheet metal panel becomes perforated due to corrosion during normal use due to a manufacturing defect in factory-supplied materials or factory workmanship. If aluminum body panels have corrosion or rust damage and the damage is not the result of abnormal usage, vehicle accident, customer actions or extreme environmental conditions, the corrosion or rust damage is covered for 5 years, unlimited miles.

For damage caused by airborne material (environmental fallout) where there is no factory-related defect involved and therefore no warranty – our policy is to provide free repair of paint damage due to the airborne material for 12 months or 12,000 miles, whichever occurs first.

 

[SoFla2016PP]

That crack is most likely taking in water already. Probably one of the worst I've seen. Ridiculous anybody saying they can't see anything wrong. Even a legally blind person could see that. Geez.

I pulled a lot of the interior panels and everything is dry, no evidence that it took water in either (no staining or anything like that).

Unfortunately I did not have the time this morning to argue it, but I will return there to show them, or possibly a different dealer.

 

[JasonGiudici]

Next time you wash the car, stand there and spray water at the cracks for a few minutes on each side, then look for water in the trunk quarters/saddles. Mine doesnt look much worse, but leaks like a seive.

 

[GT 550]

I pulled a lot of the interior panels and everything is dry, no evidence that it took water in either (no staining or anything like that). Unfortunately I did not have the time this morning to argue it, but I will return there to show them, or possibly a different dealer.

Couldn't see the crack...could he even see the actual car?

The guy might have been a dud but if they have that type of culture there it's not going to get much better. If another dealer isn't convenient you could send the service manager an email with the photo attached and asking if there's someone else who could take a look.

 

[SoFla2016PP]

Couldn't see the crack...could he even see the actual car?

The guy might have been a dud but if they have that type of culture there it's not going to get much better. If another dealer isn't convenient you could send the service manager an email with the photo attached and asking if there's someone else who could take a look.

I’m going to try another dealer. Given the Ford corrosion warranty language I pulled off Fords website a body panel was perforated during normal use due to manufacturing defect in factory supplied materials.

I think that language speaks numbers to this issue and if they’re not willing to budge I’d have to try and escalate things (helps when you’re good bud you grew up with becomes a lawyer lol).

 

[HeelToeHero]

I’m going to try another dealer. Given the Ford corrosion warranty language I pulled off Fords website a body panel was perforated during normal use due to manufacturing defect in factory supplied materials.

I think that language speaks numbers to this issue and if they’re not willing to budge I’d have to try and escalate things (helps when you’re good bud you grew up with becomes a lawyer lol).

I don't think that language applies to sealant. It applies to corrosion of the body panel from the inside out.

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