No remote start on manual 2019?

[Vlad Soare]

Like Ebm said, people have been increasingly distorting 'want' all the way into some level of 'need'. A "why bother to do anything yourself if you can have it done for you" outlook on life that places no value on doing things for yourself.

I never said I needed the remote start. I can (and will) live without it. But it would be nice to have.
I will miss the heated windscreen much more than I'll miss the remote start.

Sounds like you should be the guy pushing for a Park position in MTs rather than me. I'm only looking for a legitimate solution here; people like you are the ones who'd benefit from it.

I don't want a Park position with a manual transmission. I like the manual transmission as it is.
All I want is for manufacturers to stop treating me as if I were an imbecile. But sadly, that's never going to happen.

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[Norm Peterson]

I never said I needed the remote start. But it would be nice to have.

You may have not said it specifically, but it's sure coming across as more than just something that sounds like it might be a neat feature.

I did say 'people', too. Meant much more generally rather than individually, but if the shoe fits . . .


Norm

 

[Vlad Soare]

Yeah, maybe, because currently I can manage in freezing rain by scraping around the door with a scraper and ultimately pulling the door open by sheer force - something I won't be able to do with a frameless door. Will it be the end of the world? No, of course not. I will use my wife's SUV for one or two days, or will take a cab.
It's not the lack of a remote start feature that annoys me. Not having this option at all on any Mustang would be fine with me. What I find annoying is not having it just because some bureaucrat decided to cover his ass by treating me as if I were stupid.

 

[99Zeus99]

Apparently the new base model’s don’t get it either...

Jumper the switch on the clutch pedal, leave it in neutral with the ebrake on and program the remote start yourself. Worked for my bro until he forgot to take the car out of gear, remote started it into a tree in his yard. I don't drive my car below 32 degrees so remote start is useless to me.

 

[99Zeus99]

Yes, I can't fathom any manufacturer would accept the liability of providing a factory remote start for a manual car.

That said, as some others stated, I believe there are some aftermarket remote starts that are specifically designed for manual cars and include the necessary safeguards to make sure your car doesn't accidentally end up running through a brick wall, or into a pool. I've never personally had one but a good friend that used to work in the car stereo industry explained it to me and if I recall, it works something like this:

- You would get to your destination and park your car but leave it running.
- Ensure that the car is in neutral and pull the parking brake.
- With the car still running, you would open the door and get out.
- As soon as you shut the door, the car would automatically shut-off and lock the doors.

At this point, it's ready to be remotely started because it "knows" that the car is safely in neutral since you wouldn't have been able to get out and close the door with it running while it was in gear. I believe that, if for some reason you had to open the door without starting the car (forgot your cell phone or sunglasses or whatever) it would cancel the remote start capability to avoid the possibility of the transmission being put into gear.

I should mention that this was all explained to me years ago, before keyless engine start was a thing so I'm not exactly sure how things might be different nowadays.

Didn't help the Star Trek actor with his Jeep. Automatic trans crushed him into his own gate. Auto trans is no guarantee of safety, the operator is.

 

[99Zeus99]

I never said I needed the remote start. I can (and will) live without it. But it would be nice to have.
I will miss the heated windscreen much more than I'll miss the remote start.

I don't want a Park position with a manual transmission. I like the manual transmission as it is.
All I want is for manufacturers to stop treating me as if I were an imbecile. But sadly, that's never going to happen.

Don't take it personal. They don't think YOU are stupid, just the majority and they are correct unfortunately.

 

[Vlad Soare]

You're right, of course. Somehow I do manage sometimes to sound bit more vehement than I actually mean. Sorry about that.

 

[Norm Peterson]

Yeah, maybe, because currently I can manage in freezing rain by scraping around the door with a scraper and ultimately pulling the door open by sheer force - something I won't be able to do with a frameless door.

Trust me, with a little care, you can still break the ice enough to open the door without undue difficulty. It might take the same few minutes as letting the remote-started engine idle - or you might even be able to get it done a little quicker doing the job yourself. My '08 has frameless side glass, too.

What I find annoying is not having it just because some bureaucrat decided to cover his ass by treating me as if I were stupid.

Automakers have to design for the truly lowest-common-denominator owners among us. And it's damn near impossible to underestimate where the level of stupidity stops while still being sufficient to actually support life.


Norm

 

[Bikeman315]

Automakers have to design for the truly lowest-common-denominator owners among us. And it's damn near impossible to underestimate where the level of stupidity stops while still being sufficient to actually support life.

My vote for best quote of the day!!

 

[Vlad Soare]

Automakers have to design for the truly lowest-common-denominator owners among us. And it's damn near impossible to underestimate where the level of stupidity stops while still being sufficient to actually support life.

Indeed. I may have exaggerated a bit. Sorry about that.

Trust me, with a little care, you can still break the ice enough to open the door without undue difficulty. It might take the same few minutes as letting the remote-started engine idle - or you might even be able to get it done a little quicker doing the job yourself. My '08 has frameless side glass, too.

What I'm afraid of is that merely trying to open the door will make the window want to go down a bit, to clear the rubber seal. And not being able to move because of the ice might burn out the motor. I would be very reluctant to try and open the door as long as there was any amount of ice on the window. Am I worrying for nothing? Would it be OK?

 

[99Zeus99]

On my F150, when it's icy I smack my fist around the door frame before opening to break the ice. Otherwise it pulls the seal away from the body. Stupid design.

 

[Armageddon Turbo]

"Honey!!! Can you start the car to warm it up please!!"

"Yep!!"

Yup..why manuals don't have remote start.

 

[MaskedRacerX]

Hahaha, I just remote started my car from upstairs, wanted it to warm up before we took a little cruise (to one of our favorite restaurants here in town).

Could I have walked down the stairs, into the garage, hopped in, started it and headed back upstairs to finish up? Sure.

Am I lazy? Well yeah - but I was up early this morning doing an ~800 calorie HIIT workout, so I figured I got my exercise in today

 

[shogun32]

All I want is for manufacturers to stop treating me as if I were an imbecile.

how is remote start NOT a feature targeted at imbeciles?
What next, sensors that detect the car is in an enclosed space and trigger the garage door to open up so you don't gas yourself or the household?

 

[shogun32]

I know it sucks opening a door that seems to be glued shut. We should try a crowbar next time yeah?

Come on guys, Tesla makes the hand-held flame-thrower. You don't keep yours by the door when you go trudging out to your car? I agree frame-less windows was a feature nobody asked for. In addition to just abject laziness, engineers (or more properly the designers) seem to think *weather* doesn't need to be a factor in proposed solutions. You see that in Teslas over and over and over it would be comical if it weren't a "you can't get out (let alone in) your car" issue.

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