2020 GT500 CFTP Destroys C8 Corvette - Motortrend Comparison Review

[TTown]

I agree with your basic premise. It is a fun comparison, but not particularly useful. Here's where you lose me. I have seen the number$59,995 (rounded to $60k) for a C8, which is cheaper than the base $60,440 for the base GT 350 (but only one of those cars has magnaride and four seats). Here's the problem. I have yet to see a base C8 review--not even a review with the $70k-$75K price you quote--though I am pretty sure if you are cautious with options you might configure one for that price.

However, review after review, has included the Z51 and other options. The price AS TESTED in more than one review was greater than $80K, and in at least two reviews (3LT/Z51) the price as tested was over $88,000. $88K is materially more than a base GT 500. In fact that isn't too far removed from the price of the GT 500 with the CFTP..

At that price ($88K) the C8 is still an excellent bang for the bucks, (in my opinion). But, if you are shopping for a 2-seat, mid-engine sports car, comparing the C8 and a Mustang is an apples to oranges comparo. I like both, but the obvious (apples to apples) comparison would be Porsche, not Mustang.

Yes, but those are just reviews. One can spec and order (well, "sold out" at the moment so they say) a $75K msrp C8 z51. Play configurator on their website. That's how I'd spec it to keep the price down in say ordering a 2021 when there is more availability. I do realize next to nobody is going to by one at $59,999. But, I think the $75K msrp is probably a sweet spot for a lot of people. When you start going over that into the 80s and 90s I suspect a lot of customers disappear b/c that's just too much money.

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[nastang87xx]

Nice. This is what we should be talking about.

I'm not into big boobs at all, but big, regular or small, they need to be real. That being said, we have a good friend with massive ones, fake, she's constantly whipping them out, rubbing them on people, it's pretty fun.

Funny story, when I got my car, the first autocross event I went to 2 of the younger ladies (very good drivers btw) rubbed their bewbs on my car lol.

 

[V00D00]

Oh man, it's fanboy time again...

GT500 is an execellent car. Great power, awesome track capability. If you want the most badass mustang in town, get this thing. But you will spend $80k+ with an interior of a $30k car.

HAHAHAH!!. When have you been in the GT500? ive owned 60k cars that dont have an interior this nice. put the pipe down lolololol. Trolls always make the most outragous claims.

 

[ZRacerLE]

I think it all comes down to this. Nobody saw this coming! Nobody predicted that the GT500 Base would beat the mid-engine Corvette around a track in a MT H2H comparison. Yes the 500 had a huge hp advantage which directly led to the victory the very same way the ZL1 beat the GT350R in that H2H showdown. The thing I look at is here we have a Mustang for approximately 75k which out ran the new Vette at a track, has run 10:60s @ 133 mph at the strip, and based on a few roll videos pulls like an absolute freight train, looks fantastic as well. Given the improvements to the 2019 GT350, and GT500 Base, Ford has seriously stepped up their performance and is no longer playing catch-up. The big question now is will Chevy just leave the Corvette to fight the battle or will they step up with a revised 6th Gen or new 7th Gen Camaro?

I bet a lot of people saw it coming. I expected the ZL1 to outlap the C8 and I knew Ford was coming after the ZL1 with the GT500. I'm not surprised at the GT500 numbers given the specs and design released months ago. It's a great thing that Ford has stepped it up and I hope they keep pushing the limit.

 

[roygriffin2020]

HAHAHAH!!. When have you been in the GT500? ive owned 60k cars that dont have an interior this nice. put the pipe down lolololol. Trolls always make the most outragous claims.

+1 on V00D00's post

Oh man, it's fanboy time again...

GT500 is an execellent car. Great power, awesome track capability. If you want the most badass mustang in town, get this thing. But you will spend $80k+ with an interior of a $30k car.

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Here is a $30k car. I have had a GT350 and have seen a GT500 and it is way better than this $30k car

 

[millhouse]

But in the end it's still an awesome achievement that a slighty under 500 hp RWD car can do the 0-60 in under 3 seconds. Not even Chevy fans were sure if this statement from GM was just a marketing stunt. Of course above 60mph the pure horsepower difference will make the C8 look bad again c7 Z06, ZL1 or GT500. But in the end the C8 did the quarter mile faster than GT500 and GT500 CFTP and that is really impressive, since quarter mile is clearly to most important drag race number for a lot of people.

In the end I am not a big fan of buying a car because racetrack driver x can achieve a great time - I would not be able to drive anything close to that limit of the car honestly. But for accelerating after a red light, C8 will be a lot of fun and even putting some electric cars to shame. If I think about driving on the Autobahn, pure horsepower is of course the better choice. On a racetrack as an amateur, the C8 will propably be way easier to drive fast.

In the end it's a great time be allive for us car fans. ZL1 1LE, GT500, C8 - If I had the money, I would take all three. Too bad importing them to Germany in insanely expensive (these cars cost about $110k here)

Of course people will say let's see what the Z06 will do, because having an american 700hp midengine car that can beat up exotic cars will be awesome to see.

It's a phenomenal 0-60 time, yes. But we are living in a time when 0-60 times really don't matter as much as they used to. We have all of these other statistics (including track lap times) that people care far more about. 0-60 times are also a function of gearing. Manufacturers have long played with gearing to achieve this random 60 mph threshold that people like to brag about. So now, first gear on some cars hold to 60 mph for no reason other than to achieve a good 0-60 time.

0-60 time is indicative of how well it will launch on the street. That's it. It's your stoplight to stoplight drag-racing metric. Funny thing is, when the light goes green...if the other person has a better reaction time, that 0-60 time starts to matter much less (I'm not condoning street racing). Also, do you plan on putting the car in launch control mode to out accelerate the miata in the opposing lane? What happens when the GT500 throws on a set of drag radial tires (the easiest, fastest non warranty voiding mod you can do)? You think those magazine times really hold water knowing what the trap speed deficiencies are for the C8? Hell, there are some lightly modded GT's that have the same trap speed of the C8.

As far as the C8 1/4 mile, it's magazine times are great....but at an actual dragstrip the GT500 is going to absolutely demolish it. From a roll, the GT500 is going to absolutely demolish it. The corvettes times are as good as they are because they moved to a mid engine platform. It's not impressive, they should be where they are. They are running 0-60 and 1/4 mile times comparable to what other mid engine cars with a similar horsepower to weight ratio were doing 10 years ago. GM finially realized that there was no way to keep up with the real supercars without going mid engine....so they did.

 

[6String]

When you start going over that into the 80s and 90s I suspect a lot of customers disappear b/c that's just too much money.

True enough. Maybe you're right about $75 being the sweet spot--but I suspect it will be closer to the $88K number as reviewed.

The reason I say that is I don't believe Chevy aimed the C8 at being a Mustang competitor. The price point (right now) is the reason for the comparison, but I don't believe they are intended for the same audience. When I read the very first review, the very first comparison that popped into mind was the Porsche 911. A C8 at $88K under cuts the Porsche 911 at $91K. And it is an absolute bargain, price-wise compared to the 911 GT3. I think that is the target market (Porsche, Nissan GT-R) that GM was aiming for. In that market ($143K for a GT3, $145K for a GT-R track edition) a 2-seat sports car with C8 performance is a bargain even at $88K.

 

[bluebeastsrt]

It's a phenomenal 0-60 time, yes. But we are living in a time when 0-60 times really don't matter as much as they used to. We have all of these other statistics (including track lap times) that people care far more about. 0-60 times are also a function of gearing. Manufacturers have long played with gearing to achieve this random 60 mph threshold that people like to brag about. So now, first gear on some cars hold to 60 mph for no reason other than to achieve a good 0-60 time.

0-60 time is indicative of how well it will launch on the street. That's it. It's your stoplight to stoplight drag-racing metric. Funny thing is, when the light goes green...if the other person has a better reaction time, that 0-60 time starts to matter much less (I'm not condoning street racing). Also, do you plan on putting the car in launch control mode to out accelerate the miata in the opposing lane? What happens when the GT500 throws on a set of drag radial tires (the easiest, fastest non warranty voiding mod you can do)? You think those magazine times really hold water knowing what the trap speed deficiencies are for the C8? Hell, there are some lightly modded GT's that have the same trap speed of the C8.

As far as the C8 1/4 mile, it's magazine times are great....but at an actual dragstrip the GT500 is going to absolutely demolish it. From a roll, the GT500 is going to absolutely demolish it. The corvettes times are as good as they are because they moved to a mid engine platform. It's not impressive, they should be where they are. They are running 0-60 and 1/4 mile times comparable to what other mid engine cars with a similar horsepower to weight ratio were doing 10 years ago. GM finially realized that there was no way to keep up with the real supercars without going mid engine....so they did.

The Corvettes numbers are impressive. Its still a sub 500hp car. But any real competition of speed. Will not go well for the Vette. Can you imagine what everyones favorite 40 roll is going to look like.

 

[millhouse]

The Corvettes numbers are impressive. Its still a sub 500hp car. But any real competition of speed. Will not go well for the Vette. Can you imagine what everyones favorite 40 roll is going to look like.

Are they though? Aren't they exactly where you would expect them to be with a ~ 500rwhp vehicle on a mid engine chassis in the year 2020?

I'm not discounting them. I just they they are exactly inline with expectations. That's what happens when you move that much weight over the rear wheels. Again, this was done 10 years ago with supercars.

 

[bluebeastsrt]

Are they though? Aren't they exactly where you would expect them to be with a ~ 500rwhp vehicle on a mid engine chassis in the year 2020?

Touche.

 

[roygriffin2020]

I am not sure why no one is comparing the ZL1 1LE A10 which to me is the comparison that everyone is waiting on. That would be a closer comparo.

 

[millhouse]

I am not sure why no one is comparing the ZL1 1LE A10 which to me is the comparison that everyone is waiting on. That would be a closer comparo.

It's not the flavor of the month. Give it time. My guess is it will be slightly faster than the base GT500...all while having a team of GM engineers performing various suspension and chassis tuning to try to extract every last bit of performance. Meanwhile, the GT500 carbon will stroll in off the street, having just driven 1000 miles and bitch slap it around the track.

And afterward, all of the camaro and GM nutswinggers will claim an unfair horsepower advantage and claim that the ZLE will win around smaller tracks.

Damn, if only I could like my own post.

 

[thill444]

I am not sure why no one is comparing the ZL1 1LE A10 which to me is the comparison that everyone is waiting on. That would be a closer comparo.

It’s coming. But Motor Trend needs clicks and they have been pumping up a ton of C8 stories as of late. Many of them fake news click bait articles like the dyno article.

Traditional car journalism is all but dead.

 

[Droopy1592]

TLDR.

Anyway, I banged a girl with fake bewbs for the first time. As I suspected, fake ones are not my thing.

I was reverse-motorboated by Terri Weigl at Spearmint Rhino some 20 years ago, and hers were nice. Then I got my hands on back-to-back hard and weird ones. Not a fan. Don’t move like they should.

 

[bluebeastsrt]

I was reverse-motorboated by Terri Weigl at Spearmint Rhino some 20 years ago, and hers were nice. Then I got my hands on back-to-back hard and weird ones. Not a fan. Don’t move like they should.

Terri Weigi LOL the kids on the forum are who the f$k is that?????

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