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Almost nobody from Saudi coming to the states other than students. Saudi oil money keeps the natives happy,
Saudi 9/11 hijackers were all "students" who overstayed visas. Additionally, to say that there is almost nobody from Saudi other than students is patently false.
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If you want exact numbers, google it.
Thats how I got the other numbers, why are we getting hung up on race now? I thought you weren't bringing race into this? Before you were attempting to bring religion into it until you realized that 2 of the countries that were on the ban aren't exactly high areas of muslim worship. Now you are convinced Republicans are racist because they don't have as many minorities in office. I wonder how many Catholics are there?
I did not bring religion into it at all. I asked about the ban for lack of a better term that was specific to Muslims. That is not bringing religion into it. If I commented on the actual religion be it good or bad that would be bringing religion into it. I did not do that. He singled out Muslims in his statement. Period!

"Donald J Trump is calling for total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States."
 

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There is likely logic to the list, but it does not correlate (well) with state sponsored terrorism nor with origins of non-state sponsored terrorists.

Saudi Arabia is not included in the travel ban, despite 15 of 19 9/11 hijackers being from Saudi.

Others were from Egypt, Lebanon, and UAE--also not included in the ban.
Thank you that was my point the ban did not correlate well with the worst threat that had occurred.
 

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I did not bring religion into it at all. I asked about the ban for lack of a better term that was specific to Muslims. That is not bringing religion into it. If I commented on the actual religion be it good or bad that would be bringing religion into it. I did not do that. He singled out Muslims in his statement. Period!

"Donald J Trump is calling for total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States."
Was that a quote form CNN, i am very sure he didn't say, please prove that statement came from him.
 

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Thank you that was my point the ban did not correlate well with the worst threat that had occurred.
It's not really a ban, just further vetting of people coming form countries that sponsor terrorism. It' s kinda like calling child birth a tumor removal.
 

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There is likely logic to the list, but it does not correlate (well) with state sponsored terrorism nor with origins of non-state sponsored terrorists.

Saudi Arabia is not included in the travel ban, despite 15 of 19 9/11 hijackers being from Saudi.

Others were from Egypt, Lebanon, and UAE--also not included in the ban.
Possibly they use data from intelligence agencies monitoring terrorist activity. i am not privy to how the list was made, i am just arguing that it was not a ban of all muslims from entering the US. That is ridiculous and insulting.
 

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I am privy and not opinionizing about the legitimacy of the ban. It is what it is. All I'm saying is that the ban is not based on sources of terrorism, whether we use 9/11, Afghanistan, the Maghreb or countless other data points. Whether the fault of the media, politicians, Russians or ill-informed citizens, I do not know. But this is one of many false narratives that is influencing American public opinion.
 

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I am privy and not opinionizing about the legitimacy of the ban. It is what it is. All I'm saying is that the ban is not based on sources of terrorism, whether we use 9/11, Afghanistan, the Maghreb or countless other data points. Whether the fault of the media, politicians, Russians or ill-informed citizens, I do not know. But this is one of many false narratives that is influencing American public opinion.
Or maybe it is working as we have had no terrorrists from North Korea, Venezuela, Lybia or Iran kill anyone in the US in quite a while. Guess we missed the Saudis and UAEites or whatever they are called.
 

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